Re:Evergrande shares plunge as much as 87% as trading resume...
by throwawaymaths on Monday August 28, 2023 @06:09AM
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I think it's too simplistic to blame it on greed. It's other things like, "I can't get married if I don't have a home to my name", or, "we want to have an investment to take care of ourselves in old age and there is literally nothing else we can out our money into"
On the policy side, it's very much "property taxes are the only way local government can secure revenue and so we must do whatever we can to keep the bubble inflated"
Re:Evergrande shares plunge as much as 87% as trading resume...
by irjustin on Monday August 28, 2023 @06:36AM
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Sorry, with greed i was referring to those who sell the houses.
In 08, greed was the real estate agents and loan officers who gave loans to people who should never have had them when it was clear they couldn't afford it long run.
The home buyers many times just wanted a house but also wanted "more home" to maximize and was able to obtain a larger loan because the greed went all the way down.
first time trickle down economy works?
Re:Evergrande shares plunge as much as 87% as trading resume...
by machina_ex_deus on Monday August 28, 2023 @06:50AM
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GameStop? that wasn't a bubble, everyone buying it knew fully well that there are no fundamentals and that they are buying it to cause a short squeeze on hedge funds who shorted too much stock. Some of them got huge gains, others kept chasing the trade after it was over.
But it definitely wasn't a bubble. It was a good trade and there were some FOMO losers who kept chasing it more than they should.
Why can't all 4 of these be right? "A little too insane" defines every bubble in hindsight.
Point to a bubble w/ a collapse and I'll give you a set of statements that are "a little too insane" such that fundamentals don't hold up.
My guess is you're gobsmacked by the idea that the fundamentals don't hold up and are saying "how can anyone be that stupid?". They didn't in 99, nor 08, nor Gamestop, nor now.
Everything can be wrapped under Greed.
[Edit] Full disclosure, I'm no better - I've lost money chasing greed.