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Re:I had no idea that one company basically owns every font by strogonoff on Sunday August 27, 2023 @12:23PM (#37284134)
In the industry of big near-monopolies, let’s support small indie type designers. I personally can’t recommend enough Matthew Butterick’s work, for example. The price is not prohibitive, the license is easy to understand, while fonts are very well made and receive occasional free updates.
Re:I had no idea that one company basically owns every font by isanjay on Sunday August 27, 2023 @12:29PM (#37284194)
Can you list out the fonts you like ?
Re:I had no idea that one company basically owns every font by jxf on Sunday August 27, 2023 @12:40PM (#37284298)
Not OP, but I like PragmataPro [0] by Fabrizio Schiavi and use it in my IDEs. I particularly appreciate his attention to glyphs in languages other than English, and how nice it looks (IMO) for console interfaces and box drawing [1].

[0] https://fsd.it/shop/fonts/pragmatapro/

[1] https://fsd.it/wp-content/uploads/diagram.png.webp

Re:I had no idea that one company basically owns every font by candiddevmike on Sunday August 27, 2023 @12:47PM (#37284358)
What's the difference between app and website aside from the huge price increase?
Re:I had no idea that one company basically owns every font by jxf on Sunday August 27, 2023 @01:01PM (#37284496)
You'd have to ask Fabrizio. I assume desktop is the cheapest because it's just you, and app/website is more expensive because there's some nontrivial risk you expose the font files in a way that others can get them for free.
Re:I had no idea that one company basically owns every font by vbezhenar on Sunday August 27, 2023 @05:14PM (#37286706)
Of course you'll expose them. It's not a risk, it's how things work.
Re:I had no idea that one company basically owns every font by jxf on Sunday August 27, 2023 @09:31PM (#37288613)
I mean "expose" in the sense that you might expose the files in an unlicensed way, not just that the files are available.
Re:I had no idea that one company basically owns every font by strogonoff on Monday August 28, 2023 @12:23AM (#37289745)
His licensing model is somewhat confusing to me to be honest.
Re:I had no idea that one company basically owns every font by overvale on Sunday August 27, 2023 @12:38PM (#37284283)
Re:I had no idea that one company basically owns every font by blechinger on Sunday August 27, 2023 @01:19PM (#37284701)
I often default to one of the Iosevka variants. https://typeof.net/Iosevka/ https://github.com/be5invis/Iosevka

I use a customized set for terminal/IDE and like Aile for documents. Etoile is neat. Feels typewriterish. All covered by the SIL Open Font License.

Re:I had no idea that one company basically owns every font by bitwize on Sunday August 27, 2023 @05:41PM (#37286885)
It's not Iosevka (really, what else can come close except maybe Envy Code R), but I have recently discovered Victor Mono and think it an attractive programming font: https://rubjo.github.io/victor-mono/
Re:I had no idea that one company basically owns every font by cmod on Sunday August 27, 2023 @07:44PM (#37287804)
KLIM in New Zealand does outstanding work: https://klim.co.nz/
Re:I had no idea that one company basically owns every font by strogonoff on Sunday August 27, 2023 @10:54PM (#37289163)
I don’t get to do much design work lately, but I used his Triplicate monospace font as my main IDE/terminal driver for about a year.
Re:I had no idea that one company basically owns every font by mistrial9 on Sunday August 27, 2023 @12:29PM (#37284200)
this is a great and virtuous cycle, to name and do business with small publishers and artisans (!)

reality check - do not expect to survive financially yourself in the tornado of modernity without a small niche to fit somewhere and security from elsewhere

Re:I had no idea that one company basically owns every font by glogla on Sunday August 27, 2023 @12:47PM (#37284353)
MB is not just a knowledgeable about typography and fonts, he also published his online book using his own software he built in Racket. Definitely a true hacker!
Re:I had no idea that one company basically owns every font by caesil on Sunday August 27, 2023 @12:56PM (#37284450)
MyFonts is a very convenient marketplace. Perhaps the indie designers should band together and create something like that of their own.
Re:I had no idea that one company basically owns every font by CharlesW on Sunday August 27, 2023 @02:03PM (#37285142)
MyFonts sells typefaces by hundreds of foundries and thousands of independent type designers.

https://foundrysupport.monotype.com/hc/en-us/articles/360028...

Re:I had no idea that one company basically owns every font by kstrauser on Sunday August 27, 2023 @01:16PM (#37284662)
I bought Berkeley Mono largely for that reason. First, it's a great font that I love using. Second, it's a passion project from a small shop that cares a whole awful lot for the work and doing it right.
Re:I had no idea that one company basically owns every font by toastal on Sunday August 27, 2023 @10:39PM (#37289069)
I really wanted to pick it up, but it lacks a lot of Unicode symbols which for some is a bit of a joke since they come in ‘ligature’ form.
Re:I had no idea that one company basically owns every font by strogonoff on Monday August 28, 2023 @12:14AM (#37289683)
Berkeley Mono looks good and fairly priced (for personal development), and I like that they offer both ligature and ligature-free versions. Might add to my collection.
Re:I had no idea that one company basically owns every font by sph on Sunday August 27, 2023 @01:25PM (#37284759)
My experience with commercial fonts is not great: I have had PragmataPro in my wishlist for a decade. I then bought it, to discover, for some reason, KDE doesn't render it correctly and it's twice as bold as it should be. In GTK4 apps it is decent, but everywhere else it is not the same look of the official screenshots.

Same with Berkeley Mono, which I got the free trial version and it is a little blurry in Emacs, that kind of peculiar blurriness of fonts that have never been tested on other OSes. Most fonts are perfect on Linux, so those commercial ones might require some tweaks to be compatible with other engines, and I don't see any font designer taking the time to test on Linux.

So while I would want to support indie font designers, because of my "weird" environment, I should probably stick to the free ones that I can just swap out if they don't render correctly.

It sucks to have spent €150 for a font that doesn't render well. I don't want to ask for a refund because it might one day work on my system and ages ago I used the pirated version, which incidentally worked just fine on Linux at the time.

(Before anyone mentions my font stack is broken, I assure you it ain't, and it the closest to macOS': hidpi monitor, 2x scaling, grayscale aa, no hinting. Everything looks gorgeous, except those two commercial fonts)

Re:I had no idea that one company basically owns every font by CharlesW on Sunday August 27, 2023 @01:59PM (#37285099)
> I have had PragmataPro in my wishlist for a decade. […] KDE doesn't render it correctly and it's twice as bold as it should be. In GTK4 apps it is decent, but everywhere else it is not the same look of the official screenshots.

The typeface designer can't fix broken/inconsistent OS rendering. Still, I would've asked for a refund so the creator is aware and could avoid other potential customers.

Re:I had no idea that one company basically owns every font by folmar on Sunday August 27, 2023 @07:28PM (#37287687)
Many font sellers give a small subset as a sample in the same format as the full download so that users can test.

But I would still contact the designer/seller even if only to just let them know.

Re:I had no idea that one company basically owns every font by vertebrate on Monday August 28, 2023 @02:08PM (#37298183)
Your rendering issue sounds like the one described here: https://blog.vladzahorodnii.com/2021/12/31/more-consistent-f...
Re:I had no idea that one company basically owns every font by cschmidt on Sunday August 27, 2023 @04:01PM (#37286098)
Yes. If you ever find yourself buying a webfont for your latest website or logo, always see if you can buy it direct from the designer. Monotype takes a huge (like >50%) cut if I remember correctly.

For example, my last project I used MD System from Mass Driver for the web fonts (https://mass-driver.com/typefaces/md-system) and Denton from Peregrin Studio (https://peregrinstudio.com/work/denton) for my logo.

Re:I had no idea that one company basically owns every font by t-vi on Monday August 28, 2023 @08:32AM (#37293009)
My former neighbors run https://justanotherfoundry.com/ and I like their work and bought some.