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Re:Luckily I got hit by a car by CalRobert on Saturday August 26, 2023 @02:44PM (#37275678)
The Netherlands also had a lot of pissed off moms who were furious that drivers kept slaughtering their children. It didn't come easy, there were fistfights over it.

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2015/may/05/amsterdam-bic...

But a lot of kids are alive who would be dead without their efforts.

Re:Luckily I got hit by a car by Retric on Saturday August 26, 2023 @06:36PM (#37277521)
Moms in the Netherlands aren’t that different from moms around the world, and it’s rather insulting to suggest they are. EX: MADD https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothers_Against_Drunk_Driving

The difference is how much kids where biking, which has a lot to do with the utility of biking in a flat high density country.

Utility -> Use -> Risk -> Deaths -> Change

Re:Luckily I got hit by a car by CalRobert on Sunday August 27, 2023 @07:30AM (#37281578)
Yet the US also had high rates of walking and biking among kids in the past.

https://www.walkbiketoschool.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/...

""" In 1969, 48 percent of students in grades K through eight (ages 5 through 14) walked or bicycled to school.1

 In 2009, only 13 percent of students in grades K through eight walked or bicycled to school.1

 In 1969, 89 percent of students in grades K through eight who lived within one mile of school usually walked or bicycled to school.2

 In 2009, only 35 percent students in grades K through eight students who lived within a mile of school usually walked or bicycled to school even once a week. """

Re:Luckily I got hit by a car by Retric on Sunday August 27, 2023 @08:02AM (#37281816)
Getting to and from school was safer than walking around normally due to crossing guards. This is a global phenomenon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossing_guard

From an American perspective the temptation is to bring up suburbs etc, but being bike unfriendly is a global thing. It’s really about the physical effort to travel X distance and therefore the reasonableness of biking such distances to see a friend.