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Re:Following Elon Musk’s lead, Big Tech is surrendering to d... by pangolinja on Saturday August 26, 2023 @09:34AM (#37272776)
just to confirm; the large and frequent campaigns since The Arab Spring involving every intelligence agency on earth, and their embedded employees within every silicon valley company, including those on the outside merely using the infrastructure like Cambridge Analytica, or those with direct pipelines like Palantir; and all the COVID Disinformation spread as fact? but it's only AFTER all that, now Elon has fired all the Federal Agents working at Twitter, that Disinformation has arrived in Big Tech? Not after Amazon's Union busting, or Microsoft's monopoly building, or Google's suppression of videos and search results with no legal basis? yeah. big joke.
Re:Following Elon Musk’s lead, Big Tech is surrendering to d... by Zigurd on Saturday August 26, 2023 @09:52AM (#37272932)
Would it be a good guess that you're not vaccinated?
Re:Following Elon Musk’s lead, Big Tech is surrendering to d... by mark_l_watson on Saturday August 26, 2023 @10:04AM (#37273054)
Please indulge my curiosity. Do you agree with the rest of the grandparent’s comments? It seems like many people disagree with someone’s vaccination personal opinion and then discard the rest of their ideas. How do you feel about the rest of their points?

I have some bias about vaccines: as an old man I was grateful to get vaccinated and also grateful to get PAXLOVID after I got Covid. However, I have 100% sympathy for young healthy people who didn’t want the vaccine.

Re:Following Elon Musk’s lead, Big Tech is surrendering to d... by Zigurd on Saturday August 26, 2023 @10:54AM (#37273449)
Vaccines are effective if enough people take them. That unvaccinated young person could be what kills you. It's not a matter of saving that person from themselves. It's a matter of improving everyone's odds.
Re:Following Elon Musk’s lead, Big Tech is surrendering to d... by hotdogscout on Saturday August 26, 2023 @11:50AM (#37273914)
Sadly the COVID variants spread (not Delta) are hardly affected by the vaccine.

https://www.bmj.com/content/381/bmj.p1111

Re:Following Elon Musk’s lead, Big Tech is surrendering to d... by mark_l_watson on Saturday August 26, 2023 @09:57AM (#37272989)
+1 you fit many valid points into one short paragraph. Well done!
Re:Following Elon Musk’s lead, Big Tech is surrendering to d... by AlexandrB on Saturday August 26, 2023 @10:02AM (#37273034)
> COVID Disinformation spread as fact?

I agree. It was pretty egregious how many people were claiming that ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine were able to cure COVID. But a lot of that stuff was getting banned at least.

Re:Following Elon Musk’s lead, Big Tech is surrendering to d... by moistofreason on Saturday August 26, 2023 @10:11AM (#37273110)
And later proven to be, in fact, effective safe treatments…
Re:Following Elon Musk’s lead, Big Tech is surrendering to d... by hotdogscout on Saturday August 26, 2023 @11:46AM (#37273874)
There's a dead comment here referencing that Ivermectin or Hydroxychloroquine were labeled as effective treatments.

Does anyone have a link to this, or anything like it?

Re:Following Elon Musk’s lead, Big Tech is surrendering to d... by deeg on Saturday August 26, 2023 @01:19PM (#37274778)
The FDA made a clarifying statement about ivermectin. Some conservative groups claim this validates it as a treatment and that the FDA lied. It's bunk.

https://www.factcheck.org/2022/11/fda-did-not-change-positio...

Re:Following Elon Musk’s lead, Big Tech is surrendering to d... by giardini on Saturday August 26, 2023 @02:35PM (#37275587)
I do remember a discussion very early on ycombinator, where one of the posters was brainstorming and presented the following:

- 1. zinc ions deactivate many viruses, esp. rhinoviruses such as COVID, and zinc lozenges had long been used to halt virus' advancement in the mouth, throat and lungs (limited),

- 2. hydroxychloroquine acts as a "zinc ionophore" and allows zinc ions to pass through the cell wall and to attack viruses inside the cell (that is, not just in the bloodstream),

- 3. COVID patients were falling prey to secondary infections (i.e., COVID rapidly damaged the mucosa of the mouth, throat, lungs, opportunistic bacterial infections invaded the already-damaged tissue. Ergo use antibiotics to suppress bacterial secondary infections.

into the conclusion that a valid COVID treatment was

- early hydroxychoroquine and zinc supplementation (immediately, not after hospitalization), followed by

- antibiotic therapy to keep secondary bacterial infections at bay.

But this brainstorming brought the hounds of Hell out of the woodwork on these forums, decrying the very thought that, in the absence of a cure, one might be free to speculate on possible early remedies [At this time there was no vaccine and the need for big pharma to suppress any cheap, effective treatment was their primary goal.]

Anyway our brainstormer turned out to be right, but the naysayers won on these forums (yes, his posts were removed from this board).

That was the end of my trust in ycombinator.

Re:Following Elon Musk’s lead, Big Tech is surrendering to d... by hotdogscout on Saturday August 26, 2023 @02:46PM (#37275703)
I never trust censored forums (such as HN) on political or polemic debates.

I remember when the first cases of COVID started in Wuhan. 4chan was full of videos of people being arrested en masse in China and mountains of bodies being dragged. Doctors who alerted people of the virus on WeChat were arrested. It was months before any official information of this came out.

As much as uncensored spaces are full of stupid memes such as Qanon it's still a valuable source for suppressed news.

I wish there was a place for good faith high quality evidence-based discussions that didn't fall prey to excessive ideological moderation but this may be mutually exclusive.