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Re:Following Elon Musk’s lead, Big Tech is surrendering to d... by giardini on Saturday August 26, 2023 @02:35PM (#37275587)
I do remember a discussion very early on ycombinator, where one of the posters was brainstorming and presented the following:

- 1. zinc ions deactivate many viruses, esp. rhinoviruses such as COVID, and zinc lozenges had long been used to halt virus' advancement in the mouth, throat and lungs (limited),

- 2. hydroxychloroquine acts as a "zinc ionophore" and allows zinc ions to pass through the cell wall and to attack viruses inside the cell (that is, not just in the bloodstream),

- 3. COVID patients were falling prey to secondary infections (i.e., COVID rapidly damaged the mucosa of the mouth, throat, lungs, opportunistic bacterial infections invaded the already-damaged tissue. Ergo use antibiotics to suppress bacterial secondary infections.

into the conclusion that a valid COVID treatment was

- early hydroxychoroquine and zinc supplementation (immediately, not after hospitalization), followed by

- antibiotic therapy to keep secondary bacterial infections at bay.

But this brainstorming brought the hounds of Hell out of the woodwork on these forums, decrying the very thought that, in the absence of a cure, one might be free to speculate on possible early remedies [At this time there was no vaccine and the need for big pharma to suppress any cheap, effective treatment was their primary goal.]

Anyway our brainstormer turned out to be right, but the naysayers won on these forums (yes, his posts were removed from this board).

That was the end of my trust in ycombinator.

Re:Following Elon Musk’s lead, Big Tech is surrendering to d... by hotdogscout on Saturday August 26, 2023 @02:46PM (#37275703)
I never trust censored forums (such as HN) on political or polemic debates.

I remember when the first cases of COVID started in Wuhan. 4chan was full of videos of people being arrested en masse in China and mountains of bodies being dragged. Doctors who alerted people of the virus on WeChat were arrested. It was months before any official information of this came out.

As much as uncensored spaces are full of stupid memes such as Qanon it's still a valuable source for suppressed news.

I wish there was a place for good faith high quality evidence-based discussions that didn't fall prey to excessive ideological moderation but this may be mutually exclusive.