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Re:Meta Throttles 404Media Investigation on Drug Ads, Contin... by alexb_ on Friday August 25, 2023 @11:26AM (#37262775)
If you are talking about guns and call a magazine a clip, even in a casual setting, you would be instantly made fun of for not knowing what you are talking about. Pop culture absolutely has not given these things two names.

Calling a suppressor a "silencer" is just incorrect.

Re:Meta Throttles 404Media Investigation on Drug Ads, Contin... by delecti on Friday August 25, 2023 @11:31AM (#37262844)
There are different kinds of casual settings. In my social circle, if you criticized someone for calling a magazine a clip, you would be instantly made fun of for being such a pedantic nuisance. A clearly left-leaning media outlet like this is likely targeting an audience more like my social circle than ones who would be pedantic about silencer/suppressor or clip/magazine.

A lack of precision is only really a problem when it would cause confusion. In the context of the article, nobody is confused about what they mean by "silencer". A good example of this is that, even while complaining about calling them "silencers" rather than suppressors, the top comment still didn't have any confusion about what was being discussed.

Re:Meta Throttles 404Media Investigation on Drug Ads, Contin... by alexb_ on Friday August 25, 2023 @11:33AM (#37262865)
> In the context of the article, nobody is confused about what they mean by "silencer".

People are confused as to believing the idea that any device which makes a gun silent exists.

Re:Meta Throttles 404Media Investigation on Drug Ads, Contin... by Humboldtsnee on Friday August 25, 2023 @11:34AM (#37262884)
Even my most gun averse friends don't think a silencer makes a gun silent.
Re:Meta Throttles 404Media Investigation on Drug Ads, Contin... by stickfigure on Friday August 25, 2023 @11:39AM (#37262946)
Apparently none of your friends work in Hollywood.
Re:Meta Throttles 404Media Investigation on Drug Ads, Contin... by Humboldtsnee on Friday August 25, 2023 @11:41AM (#37262972)
Sure, movies portray suppressors as incredible magic devices, but everyone I know thinks this is fiction.
Re:Meta Throttles 404Media Investigation on Drug Ads, Contin... by mrguyorama on Friday August 25, 2023 @12:59PM (#37264114)
Movies haven't done things bad out of ignorance for many decades. It's always a sound engineer or a director saying "no people expect a movie gun to do X nowadays"

Movie hackers don't work like that because nobody involved knows how computers work, even NCIS had dedicated Computer Consultants for that kind of stuff, but real "hacking" is boring AF, and most people are willing to put that kind of "reality" aside for a better narrative.

Re:Meta Throttles 404Media Investigation on Drug Ads, Contin... by delecti on Friday August 25, 2023 @01:37PM (#37264615)
But that distinction isn't relevant to the discussion of instagram ads.
Re:Meta Throttles 404Media Investigation on Drug Ads, Contin... by joshmanders on Friday August 25, 2023 @11:57AM (#37263177)
I live in rural Iowa where everyone has guns and if someone "well ackshully it's called a suppressor/magazine not a silencer/clip" you would be ridiculed by everyone for being a pedantic clown.
Re:Meta Throttles 404Media Investigation on Drug Ads, Contin... by stuaxo on Friday August 25, 2023 @11:40AM (#37262955)
A large part of the world is made up of people that don't live around guns or know the proper names of their parts - living in the UK, the majority of people I know wouldn't know this, I bet it's the same for most of the people in Europe and Asia too.
Re:Meta Throttles 404Media Investigation on Drug Ads, Contin... by Humboldtsnee on Friday August 25, 2023 @11:31AM (#37262840)
My guy, I'm in a gun organization. I'm aware. But most folks call it a clip because that's what movies and videogames have called them for 40 years.

"Throw me a clip!" Or picking up "clips" of ammo in FPS games.

Yes, mag is becoming more common now, but clip was absolutely common.

Re:Meta Throttles 404Media Investigation on Drug Ads, Contin... by semi-extrinsic on Friday August 25, 2023 @11:41AM (#37262967)
I believe they are used fairly interchangeably in colloquial speech. E.g.

"Full clip, do you wanna mess with this?" (Guru and Premier, 1999)

"I'm like two magazines fully-loaded to your one" (ibid.)

Re:Meta Throttles 404Media Investigation on Drug Ads, Contin... by numpad0 on Friday August 25, 2023 @01:55PM (#37264869)
They're different technologies. Maybe there could be a "ammunition holding feature" superclass that both belongs. Clips don't have springs, and are used to tidy ammunition, and to aid loading magazines. Old rifles and some revolvers had clip compatibility to aid loading internal magazine. At some point the military stopped using old rifles and some revolvers, making removable magazines far more common.

But that is not even remotely relevant to the topic. The original article don't even use the word "silencer", nor "suppressor", let alone "clip".

Re:Meta Throttles 404Media Investigation on Drug Ads, Contin... by nonethewiser on Friday August 25, 2023 @11:36AM (#37262899)
> But most folks call it a clip because that's what movies and videogames have called them for 40 years.

This is precisely the point. Perhaps there is something illegal about these sales but why should I assume this is the case when the author incorrectly implies the existence of gun ads itself is illegal and use video game and movie terminology to talk about them?

Re:Meta Throttles 404Media Investigation on Drug Ads, Contin... by TimSchumann on Friday August 25, 2023 @11:48AM (#37263078)
Shouldn’t you base that judgement on the validity of their argument, and not discard the argument outright because of some semantics around the author not using ‘pure’ enough language for you?
Re:Meta Throttles 404Media Investigation on Drug Ads, Contin... by rdl on Friday August 25, 2023 @11:37AM (#37262916)
The legal term in the NFA is "Silencer", and the original items were in fact called "Silencers".
Re:Meta Throttles 404Media Investigation on Drug Ads, Contin... by NoraCodes on Friday August 25, 2023 @11:30AM (#37262837)
That you dislike it when people use incorrect but clear language does not mean that it invalidates their point.
Re:Meta Throttles 404Media Investigation on Drug Ads, Contin... by 0xcde4c3db on Friday August 25, 2023 @11:43AM (#37262999)
It's similarly incorrect to call a Ryzen 9 7950X3D a "chip", but if you complained about it, even on a hardcore PC enthusiast forum, you'd probably be downvoted and mocked for being uselessly pedantic.