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Re:Why KPIs are destroying businesses by bumby on Thursday August 24, 2023 @07:20PM (#37255807)
>If I was a developer there, I'd totally started adding those generated tests.

If I were a manager there, I probably wouldn’t hire you. You want people who are actively solving problems that matter, not just automatons beating their chest about how stupid everyone else is while they add to existing problems.

Re:Why KPIs are destroying businesses by esyir on Friday August 25, 2023 @03:18AM (#37259014)
If I was a dev there, I certainly wouldn't be approving those PRs either.

But if the devs at the org all (or even substantially) tend towards malicious compliance, that's a sign that something has gone wrong, relations-wise

Re:Why KPIs are destroying businesses by bumby on Friday August 25, 2023 @08:39AM (#37261030)
Agree. That’s what I mean when I say it’s more indicative of cultural issues.
Re:Why KPIs are destroying businesses by frollo on Friday August 25, 2023 @04:32AM (#37259420)
I you were a manager there and would approve that metric, no worries, I'd manage to fly it past you.

Any smart manager, having to deal with this kind of policy, would either push back or approve any way to game it and then get the work done. But I doubt that a company which allows this kind of BS can retain smart managers for more than a couple of months.

Re:Why KPIs are destroying businesses by bumby on Friday August 25, 2023 @08:38AM (#37261020)
If you read any of my posts on this thread, it’s pretty obvious I don’t agree with the managers approach. But I also don’t agree that the devs are doing the right thing either.

It’s telling that you show such dichotomous and defensive thinking.

Re:Why KPIs are destroying businesses by frollo on Saturday August 26, 2023 @05:14PM (#37276968)
So you disapprove of the decision, but would have enforced it in the most asinine way at the expense of actual productivity.

I just hope to never work with you and, especially, never use anything you helped building.

Re:Why KPIs are destroying businesses by bumby on Saturday August 26, 2023 @10:40PM (#37278988)
What made you draw that conclusion?

I made the point that the metric used (raw number of tests) is bad a bad way to enforce a good goal (higher code quality). I also made the point that metrics aren’t inherently bad, but they have to be chosen judiciously.

You seemed to take those two points and extrapolate an entirely different story and motives that, frankly, reads as a bit unhinged. So i also hope we don’t cross paths, because in safety critical code development where I come from where bad practices and toxic teammates can kill people.