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Re:New ancient ape from Türkiye challenges the story of huma... by BitwiseFool on Thursday August 24, 2023 @11:07AM (#37249690)
My understanding was that the name would be pronounced the same way, but as a native English speaker I don't even know what the umlaut does to the sound of the u. So I'm not even sure how the pronunciation would actually change.

In any event, if the Turkish government wants me to stop using "Turkey" I'm more than happy to call it Anatolia instead.

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Re:New ancient ape from Türkiye challenges the story of huma... by asimovfan on Thursday August 24, 2023 @11:17AM (#37249818)
Not all of Turkey is Anatolia though
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Re:New ancient ape from Türkiye challenges the story of huma... by catlover76 on Thursday August 24, 2023 @11:34AM (#37250058)
But Turks aren't originally from Anatolia anyways, and basically the only thing "Turkish" about the country/people is the language. :T
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Re:New ancient ape from Türkiye challenges the story of huma... by Thrymr on Thursday August 24, 2023 @12:43PM (#37251152)
Is anyone "originally" from anywhere they live now, really, except maybe East Africa (at some point in time)? Anglo-Saxons came from the continent, "Americans" from Europe, Africa and elsewhere, Native Americans from Asia, etc.
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Re:New ancient ape from Türkiye challenges the story of huma... by aiilns on Thursday August 24, 2023 @01:21PM (#37251787)
Greeks.
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Re:New ancient ape from Türkiye challenges the story of huma... by Tagbert on Thursday August 24, 2023 @02:22PM (#37252674)
Dorian Greeks migrated into Mycenae in the early Bronze Age.
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Re:New ancient ape from Türkiye challenges the story of huma... by catlover76 on Thursday August 24, 2023 @09:19PM (#37256687)
Yes, very true (and something I like to remind people who like to display ethnic and/or racial pride and talk about "heritage" etc)
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Re:New ancient ape from Türkiye challenges the story of huma... by paint on Thursday August 24, 2023 @12:00PM (#37250459)
It is pronounced differently to the English "Turkey". For once, it has three syllables. Anatolia is the name of the large peninsula encapsulating most of Turkey, not the country itself.
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Re:New ancient ape from Türkiye challenges the story of huma... by evujumenuk on Thursday August 24, 2023 @01:22PM (#37251804)
I have solved this conundrum by calling the country "Türkiye", while calling the bird… also "Türkiye". Thus ensuring symmetry.
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Re:New ancient ape from Türkiye challenges the story of huma... by dragonwriter on Thursday August 24, 2023 @01:35PM (#37252008)
> My understanding was that the name would be pronounced the same way

No, part of the rationale for the change is to reflect the different pronunciation (Türkiye) has three syllables

> but as a native English speaker I don’t even know what the umlaut does to the sound of the u.

While there is a change to the first vowel sound, and I think an even more subtle change to the second, the biggest difference is the existence of the third syllable, which is pretty evident from the spelling, even to most native English speakers.

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Re:New ancient ape from Türkiye challenges the story of huma... by dghughes on Thursday August 24, 2023 @01:41PM (#37252103)
I beleive it is pronounced Took-ee-ayy. It's Turkish for Turkey so I can't see why non-Turks would be using that pronunciation.

I don't say Spain in Spanish i.e. "Espanya" (phonetically) I just say Spain.

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Re:New ancient ape from Türkiye challenges the story of huma... by Cyph0n on Thursday August 24, 2023 @03:57PM (#37253793)
Not a Turkish speaker, but I believe it’s closer to tur-kee-yeh. It’s pronounced almost the same in Arabic.
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