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Re:Zoom CEO says employees can't be as innovative or get to ... by Terr_ on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @07:25PM (#37243249)
> Well there's a major difference here. [Money]

I'd also like to interject that "Productivity" metrics are almost never some kind of efficiency of human potential to create civilization against a hostile universe. They're b(i)ased on what the employer spends.

So even if a study says an employee is X% more "productive" at the office, that means ignoring all the time/money spent commuting, since that's typically shouldered entirely by employees.

So watch out for people conflating "employers get a better deal" with "offices are good for society."

Re:Zoom CEO says employees can't be as innovative or get to ... by bcrosby95 on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @07:34PM (#37243319)
Nevermind that "the 8 hour work day" included your lunch hour at one point. With an average one-way commute of 30 minutes for my state (California), here's basically 2 hours of on-the-clock time you aren't getting paid for.
Re:Zoom CEO says employees can't be as innovative or get to ... by paulddraper on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @07:49PM (#37243413)
9-5 with a whole hour for lunch? Really?
Re:Zoom CEO says employees can't be as innovative or get to ... by test098 on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @08:12PM (#37243586)
yeah. we used to get pensions too.
Re:Zoom CEO says employees can't be as innovative or get to ... by paulddraper on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @09:05PM (#37243942)
I guess that would be the downside
Re:Zoom CEO says employees can't be as innovative or get to ... by test098 on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @10:01PM (#37244235)
it was, for execs who don't want to pay fair prices for labor. but don't worry, we're waking up again and labor has the numbers on its side.
Re:Zoom CEO says employees can't be as innovative or get to ... by pirates on Thursday August 24, 2023 @07:08PM (#37255707)
My company does this. if i start work at 7 i can stop at 3, 8-4, etc. Before we went widely WFH if you were in the office for 8 hours that was it. People ought to have been pushing back on the whole “8 hours is actually 9 hours” years ago.