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Re:Cash payments above €3000 to be outlawed in Netherlands by bonzini on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @10:49AM (#37236912)
> Cash is the only fiat currency that actually exists

There's also money orders.

Re:Cash payments above €3000 to be outlawed in Netherlands by culturestate on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @10:58AM (#37237063)
I think GP means “exists” as in “doesn’t require a third party to complete the value transfer.”

If you give me a $20 bill, I can immediately exchange it for a case of beer at the bodega with no extra steps. If you give me a money order for $20, I need to find someone who is willing and/or able to convert that money order into a $20 bill before I can buy my beer.

Re:Cash payments above €3000 to be outlawed in Netherlands by 0xcde4c3db on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @11:24AM (#37237498)
Funnily enough, paper currency originated as something akin to money orders in the first place, and merchants started accepting them directly because they were much more convenient to transport and secure than the equivalent amount of coins. That's why the formal term for paper money is "banknotes".
Re:Cash payments above €3000 to be outlawed in Netherlands by bonzini on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @12:38PM (#37238653)
But money orders can be treated as fiat if enough people agree to do it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miniassegno

Re:Cash payments above €3000 to be outlawed in Netherlands by culturestate on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @01:20PM (#37239219)
I mean so can, like, grams of lead but that’s not really the discussion we’re having at this moment.
Re:Cash payments above €3000 to be outlawed in Netherlands by pc86 on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @11:11AM (#37237289)
What do you think a money order is?
Re:Cash payments above €3000 to be outlawed in Netherlands by flir on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @11:54AM (#37237987)
Maybe stamps.
Re:Cash payments above €3000 to be outlawed in Netherlands by scbrg on Thursday August 24, 2023 @04:11AM (#37246254)
No there isn't. At least not in the European country I live in.