Re:Why I'm building Nilai - A simple bookmarking service
by cdevroe on Sunday March 18, 2012 @09:25PM
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Good question. I can honestly tell you that given your needs, Nilai may never work well for you. I hope you find the exact service you're looking for though.
Re:Why I'm building Nilai - A simple bookmarking service
by kijin on Sunday March 18, 2012 @09:43PM
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Thanks. I was hoping that a service that claims it will be around in 10 years might also come with features that make it easy for people to import and manage bookmarks from 10 years ago. But it seems that your needs are different.
Re:Why I'm building Nilai - A simple bookmarking service
by twentysix on Sunday March 18, 2012 @10:34PM
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WOT gave me a warning on visiting the link but I couldn't find any reason for it to have a poor rating.
I wonder what's up with that?
https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/cdevroe.com
Re:Why I'm building Nilai - A simple bookmarking service
by mitechie on Sunday March 18, 2012 @10:26PM
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What browser are you using that you've got your bookmarks setup in?
Re:Why I'm building Nilai - A simple bookmarking service
by kijin on Sunday March 18, 2012 @10:43PM
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Firefox. But this also includes bookmarks imported from various versions of other browsers, all the way back to IE6.
Re:Why I'm building Nilai - A simple bookmarking service
by mitechie on Sunday March 18, 2012 @10:45PM
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Ok cool, I've been investigating firefox json dump imports, so wanted to make sure that's what you were using.
Re:Why I'm building Nilai - A simple bookmarking service
by kijin on Sunday March 18, 2012 @10:57PM
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Yes, the json dump is much more pleasant to work with than the old Netscape HTML format. To begin with, it can be easily parsed by any modern programming language. But the file I tried to import into Pinboard the other day was actually an HTML dump from Chrome, where I keep the same set of bookmarks modulo some private stuff. Not that it makes a difference when it comes to preserving folders.
Re:Why I'm building Nilai - A simple bookmarking service
by mitechie on Sunday March 18, 2012 @11:03PM
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Yea, the big issue is the denormalization of the data in the json dump. While it's machine readable, it's still a bit of a pita to put it together. The other thing is that since you're a folder user, how to you transition that to the tags concepts most services use. Right now I just import the folders as tags from the html dump, but want users that have tags in their stuff to be able to load the json dump to preserve those tags, which seems like it'd still not do what you were looking for. I need to make sure that nested folders means you get multiple tags during import, and I wonder if that'd help you out.
I'm looking at your screenshot [1] right now, and one question comes to mind: How are users going to organize their bookmarks on Nilai? The drop-down design shown in the screenshot reminds me of Gmail's labels, which will turn into a mess once you go beyond a certain number of tags/categories. Besides, everyone else uses the same organization system and similar features. Why should I try Nilai when I've already paid a one-time fee to Pinboard?
Well, here's one possible reason. Just the other day, I was trying to import my browser bookmarks into Pinboard, but aborted when I realized that Pinboard would not preserve the elaborate folder hierarchy (270+ folders) that I'd created over the years to organize my 5600+ bookmarks, many of which I never tagged. If there's any non-social bookmarking service that allows me to use both folders/subfolders and tags/labels to organize my bookmarks, I'll sign up in an instant. This isn't about fancy features, it's about basic paradigms. So there's a little feature request!
[1] http://nilai.co/assets/images/screenshot_desktop.jpg