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Re:138 Billion Units (Apple's Cash Position) by dcurtis on Sunday March 18, 2012 @09:00PM (#3721716)
Really?

- Apple bought a semiconductor design company and brought that in-house.

- Apple does all software design, hardware design, industrial engineering, etc in house.

- Apple develops its own processes for manufacturing their computers (unibody).

- Apple built a chain of retail stores to sell directly to consumers.

Those are just a couple examples; the trend is very clear to me.

Re:138 Billion Units (Apple's Cash Position) by phil on Sunday March 18, 2012 @09:42PM (#3721819)
Well I was thinking of the major counterexample that they own essentially none of their manufacturing. They don't produce any of their components -- even the processors they design get built by (I believe) Samsung.

As far as I've been able to tell, design and engineering get hauled in because they want to control it. I guess you can add the stores, too.

But buying something like an LCD panel maker? Or a flash maker? Or Foxconn? I'd be shocked.

Re:138 Billion Units (Apple's Cash Position) by tesseract on Monday March 19, 2012 @12:40AM (#3722338)
Well they already did buy a flash maker, Anobit. That said, Anobit is fabless just like PA Semi was.

If I am not mistaken, there were reports that Apple provided at least some of the capital for both Samsung's upcoming fab in Texas and the newly opened Foxconn factory in Brazil. I guess they have decided it doesn't (yet?) make sense to own manufacturing facilities outright, but they seem to be making actual investments in their manufacturing partners rather than just purchasing services. I would say that is indeed further evidence of a tendency toward vertical integration.

Re:138 Billion Units (Apple's Cash Position) by gt384u on Sunday March 18, 2012 @11:44PM (#3722168)
Add to that the mapping companies, lala.com, Fingerworks for multitouch, Siri, PA Semi and Intrinsity for semiconductors, and a whole lot of other tiny but massively differentiating pieces[1] to their "experience" stack.

[1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisition...

Re:138 Billion Units (Apple's Cash Position) by dangrossman on Sunday March 18, 2012 @09:07PM (#3721731)
That's the only example I've heard of, not that I follow Apple news outside HN.
Re:138 Billion Units (Apple's Cash Position) by meric on Sunday March 18, 2012 @09:26PM (#3721782)
IMHO if a company vertically integrated, it will not have many examples of how it is vertically integrated. Right now I think the only thing missing for Apple to be 100% fully vertically integrated is to buy its own factory.
Re:138 Billion Units (Apple's Cash Position) by draggnar on Sunday March 18, 2012 @09:40PM (#3721814)
Apple buys Foxconn? Or Apple builds massive factory in CA?
Re:138 Billion Units (Apple's Cash Position) by meric on Sunday March 18, 2012 @11:11PM (#3722050)
Suppose Apple is able to buy Foxconn - that would work too (there are numerous problems such as politics and anti-monopoly authorities; foxconn produces devices for many companies, not just Apple). Once bought Apple can configure the factories as it sees fit.
Re:138 Billion Units (Apple's Cash Position) by tobylane on Monday March 19, 2012 @05:17AM (#3723062)
A Chinese/Korean company can reconfigure their factories for American clients far quicker than the American factory owners next door can.
Re:138 Billion Units (Apple's Cash Position) by brianobush on Sunday March 18, 2012 @10:12PM (#3721899)
China would not allow that, at most they would be allowed to buy 49% -- though I think you were joking.
Re:138 Billion Units (Apple's Cash Position) by nl on Sunday March 18, 2012 @10:52PM (#3722000)
China would not allow that

Foxconn is actually a Taiwanese company.

(Technically that can still mean China depending on your definition. I interpreted your comment to mean that the (mainland) Chinese government would block a potential takeover. That isn't directly possible, although clearly they have multiple ways to put indirect pressure on Foxconn. (Not that this will happen anyway, because Apple isn't going to buy Foxconn))

Re:138 Billion Units (Apple's Cash Position) by draggnar on Sunday March 18, 2012 @11:24PM (#3722091)
Well it is a next step towards vertical integration. Maybe they'll buy a mining company to dig up rare earths also. And a recycling company to close the loop.