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Re:The broad set of computer science problems faced at cloud... by autotune on Monday August 21, 2023 @08:37PM (#37217127)
>- Did I mention read papers? Seriously, the research of the smartest people on planet earth are on the internet, available for your consumption, for free. Take a moment to reflect in how incredible that is. Anyone anywhere on planet earth can git gud if they apply themselves.

There is a flood of papers out there with unrepeatable processes. Where can you find quality papers to read?

Re:The broad set of computer science problems faced at cloud... by bilalq on Monday August 21, 2023 @08:50PM (#37217216)
This is a great point. It's true that there's a wealth of good information out there. But there's so much bad information that we now struggle with a signal vs noise problem. If you don't have enough context and knowledge yet to make the distinction, it's very easy to go down a wild goose chase. Having access to an expert in the field who can mentor and direct you is invaluable.
Re:The broad set of computer science problems faced at cloud... by LAC-Tech on Monday August 21, 2023 @09:11PM (#37217359)
Can you explain what you mean by an un-repeatable process? This isn't a physical science, you don't need your own reactor or chemical lab or anything to repeat what they've done.
Re:The broad set of computer science problems faced at cloud... by autotune on Monday August 21, 2023 @09:29PM (#37217500)
"But, you are not Google" - https://medium.com/humans-of-devops/you-dont-need-sre-what-y.... Just an example of what I'm talking about. Practices that work at one org may not easily transfer over to another, be that taking on kubernetes vs standard ec2 instances, on-prem vs cloud, etc. etc. Maybe un-repeatable isn't the best word so much as non-portable?
Re:The broad set of computer science problems faced at cloud... by LAC-Tech on Monday August 21, 2023 @09:35PM (#37217540)
Ah I think I see what you're getting at.

Most of the stuff I read isn't "your SAAS app should have atomic clocks" and more "here's some maths on why it works, here's some explanation of what we were going for, here's some pseudocode".

Re:The broad set of computer science problems faced at cloud... by tekla on Monday August 21, 2023 @09:22PM (#37217452)
If a Com Sci paper is unrepeatable, all of this has been a freaking waste of everyones time.
Re:The broad set of computer science problems faced at cloud... by autotune on Monday August 21, 2023 @09:33PM (#37217530)
Idempotency, testing, readability, and longevity are all too often ignored in CS and tech in the name of speed and simplicity.
Re:The broad set of computer science problems faced at cloud... by l33t7332273 on Monday August 21, 2023 @10:29PM (#37217897)
Can you elaborate on idempotency in the context os CS papers?

I’m familiar with the concept wrt mathematics(in particular in the context of ulter-a-filters as my favorite professor would say it), but I don’t see the necessity in most CS research.

Re:The broad set of computer science problems faced at cloud... by LAC-Tech on Monday August 21, 2023 @11:01PM (#37218134)
Idempotency (as I understand it, what maths people might call an 'idempotent function') is a very core idea in distributed systems - networks are unreliable, stuff may get lost, or you might not get an acknowledgment back, so the ability to send the same thing 1 0r a million times and end up with the same state is useful.

Or have I completely missed the point of your question..?

Re:The broad set of computer science problems faced at cloud... by NortySpock on Monday August 21, 2023 @11:33PM (#37218358)
It is also super useful in ye olde batch process / etl process. Designing an ingest-analyze-report process to checkpoint its work and recover gracefully even when started at an unexpected time or place means you can retry safely rather than have to manually clear out the detritus of a partial job run.
Re:The broad set of computer science problems faced at cloud... by kbutler on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @08:56AM (#37222040)
I think autotune was saying that software often does shortcut hacks violating some of those principles as an optimization. This can be a topic for research into the tradeoffs (e.g., CAP theorem), but may be more common in non-research-based implementations (e.g., NoSQL databases because ACID is slow/constraining/etc.)
Re:The broad set of computer science problems faced at cloud... by hnben on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @09:55AM (#37222767)
it is very rare that algorithms from theoretical comp sci papers actually get implemented and executed.