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Re:Dude,Where's My Donations? Wikimedia gives another $1M to... by bhaney on Friday August 18, 2023 @03:20PM (#37180736)
Their financials are public [1]. See page 4 of the document (6th page of the pdf) for their expenditure breakdown.

Some quick highlights: of their >$150M of usable donations, they spent about 57% of it on "salaries," 10% of it on "awards and grants," 4% of it just on processing donations, and a measly 2% on actual hosting costs.

[1] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/foundation/2/26/Wikim...

Re:Dude,Where's My Donations? Wikimedia gives another $1M to... by GauntletWizard on Friday August 18, 2023 @04:06PM (#37181367)
There's not a good public breakdown of how much of those salaries are on people developing Wikipedia/mediawiki/moderation tools, and how much are on special projects. It doesn't matter, anyway, because impressive failed software projects like the awful visual editor are hard to parse out of the "real work" budget.

Wikimedia foundation has cancer [1]. They've provided a huge value and reaped big rewards, but now they have built to grow, and the growth engine just keeps wanting to grow.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Guy_Macon/Wikipedia_has....

Re:Dude,Where's My Donations? Wikimedia gives another $1M to... by lostmsu on Friday August 18, 2023 @06:31PM (#37183006)
> It doesn't matter, anyway, because impressive failed software projects like the awful visual editor are hard to parse out of the "real work" budget.

This needs to be taken with the thought that not all projects necessarily end up good.

Re:Dude,Where's My Donations? Wikimedia gives another $1M to... by newaccount74 on Friday August 18, 2023 @09:57PM (#37184692)
Yeah, in retrospect it's easy to say that something was a waste of money. Much harder to tell ahead of time.
Re:Dude,Where's My Donations? Wikimedia gives another $1M to... by bawolff on Thursday August 24, 2023 @05:48AM (#37246913)
Visual Editor is generally pretty popular with a significant portion of users (especially newer users) using it. If that's a failure WMF should have more failures.
Re:Dude,Where's My Donations? Wikimedia gives another $1M to... by lock-the-spock on Friday August 18, 2023 @04:53PM (#37181964)
I don't understand this kind of critique. 2% on pure hosting cost. The horror! And they spend things on salaries, like web admins, accountants, lawyers to defend against all the different legal threats the face, people to handle takedowns, spam attacks, botfarms, PR, write the obligatory reports like the one you quote from, etc etc ...

For most companies the main expenditure is HR, that's normal and certainly expected for an org focused mainly on knowledge and information.

Re:Dude,Where's My Donations? Wikimedia gives another $1M to... by bhaney on Friday August 18, 2023 @04:57PM (#37182000)
What "critique" are you talking about?
Re:Dude,Where's My Donations? Wikimedia gives another $1M to... by newaccount74 on Friday August 18, 2023 @10:03PM (#37184730)
> a measly 2% on actual hosting costs

That's a good sign, isn't it? It means they are efficient and don't waste their budget on overpriced cloud services.

I'd be more pissed if a significant junk of the donations went straight to AWS.

Re:Dude,Where's My Donations? Wikimedia gives another $1M to... by bawolff on Thursday August 24, 2023 @05:50AM (#37246926)
> and a measly 2% on actual hosting costs.

Just keep in mind, when you don't use AWS, lots of costs that would normally be hosting costs become salary costs instead (the data center doesn't set itself up)