Re:The world in which IPv6 was a good design
by OccamsMirror on Monday August 14, 2023 @07:40AM
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I think you’ll find the real transition to be a lot quicker than that. All it takes is one of the big companies drawing a line in the sand because they’re unable to buy enough IP addresses, so they finally take a stand. Just like when YouTube nailed the lid into the coffin of ie6.
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Re:The world in which IPv6 was a good design
by kalleboo on Monday August 14, 2023 @08:29AM
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I doubt a big company would draw the line in the sand. But I could see an upstart (think TikTok) not having up enough IP addresses and just giving a crappy, slow proxied experience over IPv4, but having it be native, zippy and good over IPv6. Suddenly you have teens begging their parents to switch ISPs.
Re:The world in which IPv6 was a good design
by nikanj on Monday August 14, 2023 @09:27AM
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That comes with a major assumption that switching ISPs is an option. Most people get to choose between their cable company, or a fleet of ill-trained pigeons
Re:The world in which IPv6 was a good design
by voyagerfan5761 on Monday August 14, 2023 @10:23AM
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As an example, the options where I am right now (thankfully temporary) are:
- $55/mo. 3 Mbps DSL
- $80/mo. 300 Mbps cable (or even more expensive, faster cable)
- $120/mo. 100+ Mbps (if you're lucky) Starlink
- A few other heavily restricted, very expensive satellite options (e.g. HughesNet), to which the aforementioned fleet of ill-trained carrier pigeons might be preferable
Only one of those is practical and (mostly) reliable for anything remotely approaching something like remote work.
Back home it's such a luxury to be able to choose DSL, cable, or fiber. I can only dream that all markets will have an actual choice between Internet service providers someday.
Re:The world in which IPv6 was a good design
by patmorgan23 on Monday August 14, 2023 @12:49PM
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Did you look at doing 5g home Internet? There's great coverage in lots of areas.
Re:The world in which IPv6 was a good design
by nikanj on Monday August 14, 2023 @01:48PM
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At least in Canada 5g comes with $50-for-15GB levels of data cap pricing
Re:The world in which IPv6 was a good design
by patmorgan23 on Monday August 14, 2023 @12:48PM
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Actually most people (in the US) get a choice between the cable company, the LEC, and a 5g carrier, and maybe even StarLink.
Re:The world in which IPv6 was a good design
by JohnFen on Monday August 14, 2023 @01:28PM
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I have a choice between the cable company and sorta Starlink (Starlink isn't actually available in my area yet, and is a nonstarter anyway). There are no other options available to me.
Re:The world in which IPv6 was a good design
by WorldMaker on Monday August 14, 2023 @03:50PM
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Many of the "choices" are false choices. My home, in the downtown of a major city, shows as having two choices for wired broadband, but the phone company's wired broadband option is an old ISDN network grandfathered in to "broadband" that probably shouldn't have been, it is the very bare minimum of "broadband" in 1990s standards. (And the phone company charges the same monthly cost for it as actual high speed broadband options they provide, just to add additional cruelty.)
Re:The world in which IPv6 was a good design
by patmorgan23 on Monday August 14, 2023 @12:46PM
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I think you'll be surprised. As soon as most large and medium businesses support IPv6 we'll start to see people dropping v4, likely within the next 5-10 years. When only a tiny % of your potential customer base is dependent on v4 you start to weight the cost of staying dual stack or just going pure v6