“Yes, you should test on production” – Why developer experience matters

Re:“Yes, you should test on production” – Why developer expe... by anoy8888 on Monday August 14, 2023 @06:38AM (#37119442)

I don’t understand why people redefine words just make their point. It can be confusing at best and at worst change the me meaning of words when it becomes viral. “Smart” people means smart people. It shouldn’t be used to mean junior dev who are trying to hard to prove themselves and over engineer or choose the wrong approach. So many words have changed their original meaning because someone decides to write a viral post and redefine words to make a point

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Re:“Yes, you should test on production” – Why developer expe... by chpmrc on Monday August 14, 2023 @06:54AM (#37119541)

Oh what an accomplishment it would be, to be able to change the meaning of the word "smart" with a single article!

(Don't take it too seriously, like I said this is mostly a brain dump, I'm sure there's a lot of stuff that can be improved)

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Re:“Yes, you should test on production” – Why developer expe... by JohnBooty on Monday August 14, 2023 @08:20AM (#37120186)

I like your usage of "smart" in the article.

I see this challenge a lot in the industry. The young engineers truly are smart, even brilliant, but lack wisdom and experience.

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Re:“Yes, you should test on production” – Why developer expe... by chpmrc on Monday August 14, 2023 @11:53AM (#37122517)

I completely agree. "Smart" isn't used sarcastically here. It's an adjective that most young devs would (rightfully) like to be referred to as. But I see experienced devs as less interested in looking/being "smart" (or clever or whatever word you want to use) and just getting things done in a way that allows the org to make money and get rid of BS (unrelated to the above) as much as possible.

Maybe there's a better way to outline this difference.

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Re:“Yes, you should test on production” – Why developer expe... by routerl on Monday August 14, 2023 @07:30AM (#37119789)

Oh right, the "original meaning" of "smart"... so you must mean "pain or ache"? I really don't see how that's relevant to the article.

Words change, they always have, they always will. Get over it.

And anyway, the article's usage is consistent with the well-established phrase "smart guy", within which the word "smart" carries a sarcastic and derisive tone.

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Re:“Yes, you should test on production” – Why developer expe... by gwright on Monday August 14, 2023 @08:14AM (#37120144)

> Words change, they always have, they always will. Get over it.

While this is true, I think it is helpful to communication to resist changes to language. This isn't the same thing as opposing change entirely, but language needs to have a certain stability and common understanding to maximize its usefulness.

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Re:“Yes, you should test on production” – Why developer expe... by chrisfowles on Monday August 14, 2023 @08:21AM (#37120200)

One of the reasons that English has been so successful as a global business language is its ability to be flexible and splodgable and still make sense.

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Re:“Yes, you should test on production” – Why developer expe... by routerl on Tuesday August 15, 2023 @12:14AM (#37130089)

> I think it is helpful to communication to resist changes to language

Your opinion is wrong. The most widely spoken languages, in every historical period, are the most adaptable. Adaptability is the single most important factor in a language's ability to survive, in a useful/usable/used state, and always has been.

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