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Re:Is the Airbnb Dream Dead? by krasin on Thursday August 10, 2023 @01:47PM (#37079342)
Multi-story luxury condos are a thing. Not a lot of land used, and it's something that many people want to live in. Why are they not being built in these places?

Even high-end condos cost less than a low-end house to build, since the land costs are amortized among many units.

Re:Is the Airbnb Dream Dead? by Tade0 on Thursday August 10, 2023 @01:51PM (#37079411)
> Why are they not being built in these places?

Perhaps because a tall residential building in a tourist spot is an eyesore.

People go there to see something scenic, not more of what they have at home, or worse.

Re:Is the Airbnb Dream Dead? by spaced-out on Thursday August 10, 2023 @02:26PM (#37079874)
If your urban planning is going to prioritize giving tourists scenic views rather than building affordable homes for the people that live and work in the city, then you shouldn't be surprised if the city turns into an giant museum/resort where only the wealthy can afford a decent QoL (because they're the only ones who can financially compete with the tourists).
Re:Is the Airbnb Dream Dead? by Tade0 on Thursday August 10, 2023 @06:16PM (#37082467)
Here's the thing: with the proliferation of AirBnB and real-estate-as-an-investment that's already the case regardless of density.

In my corner of the world people move out of large cities not because they enjoy driving so much, but because they don't have the credit score for anything within city limits

Space and access to sunlight are also components of quality of life and you have neither in very dense housing.

Re:Is the Airbnb Dream Dead? by spaced-out on Thursday August 10, 2023 @07:44PM (#37083183)
>but because they don't have the credit score for anything within city limits

That's because there's not enough housing in the city limits.

>Space and access to sunlight are also components of quality of life and you have neither in very dense housing.

That's not true, adding a few more sky scrapers increases the amount of space for people and does not impact the amount of sunlight people can enjoy.

Cities can also do things like add more rail lines, so people can commute from further away -- which also increases the amount of space for people.

Re:Is the Airbnb Dream Dead? by FeteCommuniste on Thursday August 10, 2023 @01:56PM (#37079486)
Exactly. "Hey, let's build a dime-a-dozen twenty-story glassy tower next to all these centuries-old churches and open-air markets."
Re:Is the Airbnb Dream Dead? by krasin on Thursday August 10, 2023 @01:56PM (#37079482)
> Perhaps because a tall residential building in a tourist spot is an eyesore.

If you build it like an eyesore, it will be an eyesore, yes. Here is a multi-story building that I lived as a student in and it housed another 10k: https://www.ruseducation.in/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/LOMON...

But I agree that building glass+concrete rectangles is a not a great idea for tourist spots (or anywhere, really).

Re:Is the Airbnb Dream Dead? by Tade0 on Thursday August 10, 2023 @02:04PM (#37079604)
Your example has one thing that those condos don't have: glorious socialist realism waste of space - and I mean it in a good way.

When they were young, my grandparents moved into a whole district built from scratch for the purpose of housing workers from a nearby steelmill.

Communism notwithstanding, the district is amazingly well planned and - what's dearly missing in modern, hyper-optimized construction - sufficiently spread apart.

Re:Is the Airbnb Dream Dead? by krasin on Thursday August 10, 2023 @02:28PM (#37079895)
> Your example has one thing that those condos don't have: glorious socialist realism waste of space - and I mean it in a good way.

Exactly! If you rise up enough, it becomes possible to have green zones around these big buildings and make living actually enjoyable.

On the other end of the spectrum is Hong Kong and most of Manhattan - I don't look forward to living there, even if some condos are really nice inside.

Re:Is the Airbnb Dream Dead? by stinkyball on Saturday August 12, 2023 @12:12PM (#37101648)
One of the sisters is a great example for sure, and they were in my mind as I read your previous comment but I cant think of any others that come even close. Would love to see other examples.
Re:Is the Airbnb Dream Dead? by dionidium on Thursday August 10, 2023 @01:58PM (#37079521)
"Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded."
Re:Is the Airbnb Dream Dead? by J_Shelby_J on Thursday August 10, 2023 @02:03PM (#37079587)
Paris has one of the highest population densities of any city on earth even with buildings capped at 6 stories. What an eyesore!