Hyperbola GNU/Linux ditched OpenJDK becasue either bugs or patents. The list on Java CVE's it's atrocious. Java should've died long ago with Golang and some cross-plaform (basic) GUI libraries promoted from Google. Nothing fancy, something like plan9/9front UI's, but enhanced.

Java exists today because of corporateware. Outside of it, it's dead. De-ad. No one uses Java seriously for emulators, browsers, or basic software. Just ad-hoc company-graded enterprise, live VB6 back in the day.

I don't think this take understands Java's position, relevance, or the roles it serves. Or even what are the important categories, driving most of software development (it's not enulators, broswers -of which they're just a handful, all in C++, or "basic software" whatever that means).

For starters, Java is by no means used just in "corporateware", if this means some intranet stuff. It's also hugely dominant in server side development (including FAANG) and is used by tons of startups, it's big in banking, high frequency trading, and all kinds of heavy service infrastructure.

That covers the huge majority of programming work, not writing "emulators and broswers" (sic), which is why it's in the top 5 of the TIOBE index.

"GUI libraries" have little to do with, not to mention they're generally irrelevant for most modern programming use cases, which is server/backend or web-based (and where they're not, they're already provided by the host OS and its preferred SDKs).

Also "Hyperbola GNU/Linux"? That yardstick of what's secure?

That doesn't say anything about CVE's and the issues on being not so performant against the new iterations of C# or even PHP >7.

I know that if you were to work in any company, Java would ve everywhere, but today the times changes. Even the Crustacean lang it's preferable againt Java on big backends. On the ligther workloads, Golang works great and it solves the multiplatform issue by crosscompiling from anywhere to anywhere.

These sound like musings based on "coolness factor" and hype, with a very distorted sense of the facts on the ground. Like the kind one gets from reading about various technologies or tinkering rather than actually working with them.

In any case, there's some serious lack of seriousness in the above. I mean, Java "not so performant against the new iterations of C# or even PHP >7"?

JetBrains is valued at $7 billion by the Bloomberg Billionaires Index and they build their popular IDEs in Java... So Java isn't de-ad outside of corporateware...

I know it's used by inertia in some corporate envs and thanks to some GC tunings it looks that it can run really well over long time. But even with GraalWM, the performance outside big irons leaves much to be desired...

Java works passably and gets job done over long time. And rust isn't magically fast.

You mean something like arbitrary deserialization? That's a logical bug implementable in any language.