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Re:The Future of the Vim Project by kqr on Thursday August 10, 2023 @08:18AM (#37075245)
I'm lucky enough to never have been put in this situation, so please excuse my ignorance: why does someone need to be able to sign in to my accounts when I'm no longer?
Re:The Future of the Vim Project by chasd00 on Thursday August 10, 2023 @08:26AM (#37075317)
When my father in law passed away his wife asked me to get some photos on a thumb drive for her. I knew his password from watching him login, I also went ahead and deleted his browser history.
Re:The Future of the Vim Project by ibejoeb on Thursday August 10, 2023 @09:01AM (#37075622)
I'd pay for this service
Re:The Future of the Vim Project by sonofhans on Thursday August 10, 2023 @11:07AM (#37077118)
The real hero is always in the comments. That was very humane of you.
Re:The Future of the Vim Project by ncann on Thursday August 10, 2023 @08:31AM (#37075362)
If you are perfectly prepared for your passing and made your will, arranged all the financial stuffs, told your friends and family everything needed etc. then you don't need to give access to your accounts. But many people don't have that luxury. When death is unexpected, things get messy, e.g you may want to continue paying the mortgage on time, or shutdown social media accounts, or make announcement of their passing using those accounts, or contact their lawyer, or cancel subscribed services, and so on.
Re:The Future of the Vim Project by lowercased on Thursday August 10, 2023 @08:22AM (#37075280)
Being able to unsubscribe to a service, as someone else mentioned.

In social media world, posting some final "xyz has passed on. this account will be closing" or similar 'wrap up' activity is often useful.

Re:The Future of the Vim Project by maxfurman on Thursday August 10, 2023 @08:19AM (#37075257)
Anything with recurring billing needs to be cancelled, for a start.
Re:The Future of the Vim Project by praseodym on Thursday August 10, 2023 @08:22AM (#37075279)
Call the deceased person's bank to cancel all credit cards in their name and that's taken care of.
Re:The Future of the Vim Project by evanriley on Thursday August 10, 2023 @08:26AM (#37075320)
Doesn't work for all services. Some services will, if unable to charge the card,send whatever amount to collections, and now they have to deal with that.
Re:The Future of the Vim Project by bee_rider on Thursday August 10, 2023 @08:47AM (#37075490)
Debt collectors are persistent, but hey at least if they follow me to Hell maybe they can take a tour, check out apartments for their stay.
Re:The Future of the Vim Project by devnullbrain on Thursday August 10, 2023 @09:35AM (#37075985)
Or pester your widow(er)
Re:The Future of the Vim Project by zo1 on Thursday August 10, 2023 @09:29AM (#37075919)
You'd think it's that easy. Some places literally are unable to do anything unless you're some sort of "signatory" or the actual account holder. No amount of if, buts, maybes, and certified/stamped copies of death certificates will convince them.

I couldn't even cancel the health insurance company's recurring payments after a death. And they had the audacity to send a "how was your hospital stay" questionnaire to the account holder's email after they were "discharged" by the hospital.

Re:The Future of the Vim Project by yjftsjthsd-h on Thursday August 10, 2023 @10:49AM (#37076869)
> And they had the audacity to send a "how was your hospital stay" questionnaire to the account holder's email after they were "discharged" by the hospital.

That feels like an email that deserves an honest response:)

Re:The Future of the Vim Project by humanistbot on Thursday August 10, 2023 @10:08AM (#37076354)
Your reply shows that you've never had to do this yourself. It's a lot more complicated than that.
Re:The Future of the Vim Project by bluGill on Thursday August 10, 2023 @09:03AM (#37075635)
When my dad died my mom needed access to all the accounts to do things like pay the electric bill. That is all done online so without him logging into the online bill pay she would have no way to know what was owed. I suppose after a few months of not paying they would send a paper bill, but then there are late fees and the like.
Re:The Future of the Vim Project by Nzen on Thursday August 10, 2023 @09:27AM (#37075882)
While most people have focused on post-mortem account recovery, that's not the only occasion. The small company I've worked for has had the last three administrators leave the company in arrears for a time with quick departures and little handoff of procedures. It is all the more frustrating because we overtly use a shared password managment tool for accessing client servers.
Re:The Future of the Vim Project by OskarS on Thursday August 10, 2023 @09:48AM (#37076119)
Lots of other people have mentioned very good practical reasons (and you can read the linked post for others, like people being unsure of what the password to the Vim FTP is), but there are lots of good sentimental ones as well.

When something like this happens, you lose your mind slightly, and you become obsessed with preserving whatever is possible to preserve of the person. I went so far as to record his voice-mail message, just because I felt i needed to.

Of all the internet stuff, the thing that was most important to us was photos: he was a photographer, and he used a photo-uploading service (I think it was Google Photos, but I'm unsure, it's been a couple of years) and I was able to get an archive with all his thousands of photographs.

Eventually, I put everything I could possibly find (computers, internet services, whatever) into one big zip file, and put it on my local NAS (which is backed up to the cloud). I don't think I'll ever have the heart to go through it again, but my brother had young kids who never really got to know their dad. I figure one day they might want to look at it (even if it's 30 years from now) so it makes me feel good to know that it's been preserved.