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Re:The Future of the Vim Project by oblio on Thursday August 10, 2023 @07:49AM (#37074924)
Inertia.

Such base programs basically need to go through the Debian packaging gauntlet if they want to succeed.

What I mean by that is that generally they need to persuade distros to be anointed the "official" tool, i.e. Debian or Fedora would have to select Neovim as the new default text instead of Vim.

Then you need a few years for the changes to trickle down everywhere: Debian -> Ubuntu-> Mint -> ..., Fedora -> RHEL, ... After that distro releases need to be cut and people need to upgrade.

I think a full cycle, where a tool becomes ubiquitous if it gets adopted in the base installs, is probably 10 years. See systemd.

Re:The Future of the Vim Project by trealira on Thursday August 10, 2023 @08:29AM (#37075350)
> What I mean by that is that generally they need to persuade distros to be anointed the "official" tool, i.e. Debian or Fedora would have to select Neovim as the new default text instead of Vim.

You're probably right. However, I think it's more likely that the Linux distros drop Vim entirely and make Nano the default editor than that they replace Vim with Neovim.

The BSDs have nvi as the default editor, IIRC, so they won't need to change anything.

Re:The Future of the Vim Project by layer8 on Thursday August 10, 2023 @09:22AM (#37075824)
Nano already is the default editor (via /etc/alternatives/editor).
Re:The Future of the Vim Project by user3939382 on Thursday August 10, 2023 @08:19AM (#37075251)
> Inertia.

At some point I tried to switch and some setting broke in my config (mouse mode?) I forget what it was. It took me another 3-4 years before I tried again.

Re:The Future of the Vim Project by planede on Thursday August 10, 2023 @08:30AM (#37075359)
In what sense vim is default in Debian?
Re:The Future of the Vim Project by layer8 on Thursday August 10, 2023 @09:22AM (#37075828)
It’s not, Nano is.