Re:Launch HN: Refine (YC S23) – Open-Source Retool for Enter...
by molsongolden on Wednesday August 09, 2023 @04:55PM
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Ah, I hadn't tried the Refine demo and was going totally off of past Retool experiences where creating or modifying an app can mean just picking a UI component and adding SQL.
Refine does appear to require developer build-out and is more of quickstart framework.
Re:Launch HN: Refine (YC S23) – Open-Source Retool for Enter...
by buremba on Wednesday August 09, 2023 @07:22PM
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You can build low-code tools with Refine though. One of my side projects Jinjat (https://jinjat.com) uses Refine as the UI framework to render the data models that you have in your dbt project, as an example. Retool is an end-to-end tool whereas Refine focuses on the front-end and gives the flexibility in the backend for your business logic, which is often hard to scale out with Retool.
My second point is that even no-code tools tend to require developer support sooner or later. What I've noticed for admin tooling is that it often works best when it is driven by the product team. For example, customer support requests comes in which requires devs to stop working, investigate the issue, manually fix up data where necessary, etc. Devs hate doing this. Give the dev the ability to add the functionality to the admin and they often will, just to make the support requests go away. If you take away the admin from the product team then there is more friction in this path.
I will admit however, that the quality of life improvements demanded by the support teams often go un-attended. But I don't see how Refine will help this go away if it requires someone familiar with next.js/React, Ant/MaterialUI, etc. to make changes.