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Re:Downfall Attacks by kragen on Wednesday August 09, 2023 @12:34PM (#37065183)
dan bernstein had pointed out the risk that speculative execution would lead to side-channel attacks years before, but there's a common pattern where security people point out a risk and then vendors dismiss it as impractical until it's demonstrated in practice
Re:Downfall Attacks by buildbot on Wednesday August 09, 2023 @03:21PM (#37067280)
In computer engineering grad school, I mentioned to my PI that there was an upcoming hardware security flaw that I had heard about from … sources… and he quickly guessed it was speculative execution related without knowing anything more. I think people knew it was possibly dangerous, but the performance gains from speculative execution were huge enough nobody in Intel/AMD red-teamed the design basically.
Re:Downfall Attacks by kragen on Wednesday August 09, 2023 @06:02PM (#37069029)
probably incentives are not well-aligned

i mean meltdown didn't exactly crater intel's sales

Re:Downfall Attacks by illiac786 on Monday August 14, 2023 @01:59AM (#37117939)
To be fair, there's a lot of low quality security research out there, pointing at totally impractical attacks. But ok, these are not Dan Bernstein ;)