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Re:Want employees to return to the office? Then give each on... by CamperBob2 on Wednesday August 09, 2023 @11:44AM (#37064408)
(Shrug) If that's what it takes, that's what it takes. Commuting is for suckers, regardless of how many numbers are on your paycheck.
Re:Want employees to return to the office? Then give each on... by red-iron-pine on Wednesday August 09, 2023 @02:06PM (#37066408)
agreed. unless its like an easy 20 min walk or bike or something, i don't plan on commuting regularly for anything less than a Director role.

on the Dir level? fine, different story, and being present to have official off the record chats may be required.

Re:Want employees to return to the office? Then give each on... by rqtwteye on Wednesday August 09, 2023 @02:52PM (#37066936)
Pay cuts are for suckers too.
Re:Want employees to return to the office? Then give each on... by CamperBob2 on Wednesday August 09, 2023 @04:02PM (#37067656)
I mean, yes, that's the obvious take, but can you honestly say there's nothing you could be doing that would make you more money, but that would completely suck, prompting you to do something else instead?

Just today I'm seeing stories about how the UPS truck drivers have managed to negotiate themselves pay and benefits up to $170,000/year. Would you rather make $150,000 a year at your desk at home, or $170,000/year schlepping packages for UPS?

If your answer is "$150K," you're taking a pay cut for a better work environment. Does that make you a sucker? No? Well, that's what WFH is about. If you have to leave your current job and find another one to make it happen, it could make sense as long as your paycheck and future prospects aren't too badly hurt. (And assuming you want to WFH, of course, which many people will not.)

Re:Want employees to return to the office? Then give each on... by johnnyanmac on Wednesday August 09, 2023 @08:26PM (#37070253)
>regardless of how many numbers are on your paycheck.

I dunno, 7 is a lot of numbers. Work for 5 years, and be close to retirement. Definitely have my house/car and even a few luxury projects paid off in that time. I could work part time/contracts and let the rest of the money gather interest.

But I suppose you're basing this on reality, not a true ultimatum.