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Re:Downfall Attacks by BeeOnRope on Tuesday August 08, 2023 @06:19PM (#37056242)
I'm not directly in charge of hiring QA, no!

I think this sort of excuses the initial blindness to Spectre style attacks in the first place, but once the basic pattern was clear it doesn't excuse the subsequent lack of discovering any of the subsequent issues.

It is as if someone found a bug by examining the assembly language of your process which was caused by unsafe inlined `strcpy` calls (though they could not see the source, so they had no idea strcpy was the problem), and then over a the subsequent 6 years other people slowly found more strcpy issues in your application using brute-force black-box engineering and meanwhile you never just grepped your (closed) source for strcpy uses and audited them or used many of the compiler or runtime mitigations against this issue.

Re:Downfall Attacks by justinator on Tuesday August 08, 2023 @06:23PM (#37056280)
That still seems like a job for QA and you do have a good point. If there's an attack using one technique, there should be an audit to make sure that technique can't be modified to be used in other nasty ways, then have those tests part of the test suite.