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Re:Car Bloat: “Huge Cars Are Terrible for Society” by GaryNumanVevo on Monday August 07, 2023 @03:59PM (#37040136)
Yeah and a new RAV-4 delivery date is 2-3 YEARS after you put a deposit down and the used market is in a stranglehold by the dealerships.
Re:Car Bloat: “Huge Cars Are Terrible for Society” by frumper on Monday August 07, 2023 @04:15PM (#37040371)
Most carmakers don't sell most of their new cars on the order it and it shows up model. They send to dealers and you buy them. Our local dealer has 2 on the lot right now. I live in a small city surrounded by much larger ones. We don't have some exceptional line on new Toyotas.
Re:Car Bloat: “Huge Cars Are Terrible for Society” by bombcar on Monday August 07, 2023 @04:20PM (#37040423)
Have you gone in to buy one? They often show as "available" on the website but have been spoken for months/years ago.

I was in line for a Sienna for 20 months before I finally bailed.

Re:Car Bloat: “Huge Cars Are Terrible for Society” by frumper on Monday August 07, 2023 @04:23PM (#37040461)
I drive by the dealer everyday. 2 currently there. Personally, I've found dealers don't honor lines. One salesman told me that when they got the car I was looking for in stock they start calling people and the first person to physically show up AND sign the sales papers gets it. I ordered a Tesla after that experience.
Re:Car Bloat: “Huge Cars Are Terrible for Society” by bombcar on Monday August 07, 2023 @04:49PM (#37040764)
Yeah, dealers are notorious for "whatever gets me my cash".

You could find those RAV4s here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12fx6j51iiA7q1Wm3keDu... (or the hybrid or prime) if you were bored.

Often the manufacturers allocate vehicles to dealers on somewhat of a random lottery, so if you need one fast you're often best traveling to the dealer that's as far away from a big city as possible.