How Zoom’s terms of service and practices apply to AI features

Re:How Zoom’s terms of service and practices apply to AI fea... by gnfargbl on Monday August 07, 2023 @03:53PM (#37040052)

Which provider will you be moving to, and have you checked that their ToS are more acceptable?

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Re:How Zoom’s terms of service and practices apply to AI fea... by Simorgh on Monday August 07, 2023 @04:03PM (#37040213)

This is the question! Is there anything anyone would recommend on security grounds?

Enterprise may resonate with something with Signal level e2ee.

Has anyone tried Element IO, as an example, in a commercial setting?

Asking for a friend.

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Re:How Zoom’s terms of service and practices apply to AI fea... by fsflover on Monday August 07, 2023 @05:07PM (#37040963)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37021910

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Re:How Zoom’s terms of service and practices apply to AI fea... by freedude on Monday August 07, 2023 @05:13PM (#37041022)

jitsi

https://meet.jit.si/

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Re:How Zoom’s terms of service and practices apply to AI fea... by aftbit on Monday August 07, 2023 @05:38PM (#37041317)

If you don't need the "advanced" zoom features, I can highly recommend Jitsi. Free public service and you can self-host if you need it. We have been running a fully remote company with 90% of meetings via Jitsi since COVID with great success. I recommend Chrome over Firefox though, as FF's WebRTC support is behind Google's.

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Re:How Zoom’s terms of service and practices apply to AI fea... by cudgy on Tuesday August 08, 2023 @03:03AM (#37045485)

Doesn’t using a Google product taint the solution, if privacy is a major concern? Also, WebRTC leaks ip addresses when using a VPN.

What is the secure way to video conference? Webex? FaceTime offers end to end encryption, but can not easily share non-mac os screens.

Articles like this sure make me like Apple sometimes

https://9to5mac.com/2023/07/20/apple-imessage-facetime-remov...

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Re:How Zoom’s terms of service and practices apply to AI fea... by aftbit on Monday August 14, 2023 @04:20PM (#37126300)

Yeah, though I don't really understand your privacy/security model. If you are worried about being targeted directly by Google or some three letter agency, you certainly should not use any of this technology. Instead, you need to go back to the basics, to something running on a physically segregated network, with a much smaller attack surface area. If you are just worried about being dragnet tracked, you are way better off with Jitsi than Zoom even if you end up using Chromium to connect to the session.

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Re:How Zoom’s terms of service and practices apply to AI fea... by dolmen on Tuesday August 08, 2023 @10:09AM (#37049197)

Jitsi but using Chrome doesn't fix anything privacy-wise.

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Re:How Zoom’s terms of service and practices apply to AI fea... by aftbit on Monday August 14, 2023 @04:18PM (#37126265)

Well for me it does, at least to some extent, as I use Chromium built by Arch Linux and run a new clean profile for each call. I highly doubt Google is collecting my actual data (not metadata), like AV streams or even web history, in this configuration.

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Re:How Zoom’s terms of service and practices apply to AI fea... by TheRealDunkirk on Tuesday August 08, 2023 @08:14AM (#37047795)

Most "free markets" in the US -- certainly all that matter -- are dominated by 2 or 3 players, and when they all agree to do the same sorts of anti-consumer things, there's nowhere to go. Even if Teams or some other small player has better ToS now, who's to say they won't do the same thing tomorrow? Or do it anyway, without telling anyone?

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