Re:Car Bloat: “Huge Cars Are Terrible for Society”
by pc86 on Monday August 07, 2023 @02:54PM
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"Make your family less safe to make strangers more safe" is certainly a hard to sell to approximately 99% of the world.
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Re:Car Bloat: “Huge Cars Are Terrible for Society”
by ben_w on Monday August 07, 2023 @03:07PM
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Would you rather raise your family in:
(0) a place where nobody else can have an SUV whose extra size directly increases the danger to your kids, but you also can't own one to keep your kids slightly safer while you drive them; or
(1) a place where you can have an SUV that keeps your family slightly safer while they're in it, but everyone else can also own one and they make your family less safe whenever they're not in an SUV themselves?
Social rules are, at least at their best, a way to do better than a Nash equilibrium of mutual defection.
Re:Car Bloat: “Huge Cars Are Terrible for Society”
by rootusrootus on Monday August 07, 2023 @03:09PM
(#37039297)
Since (0) is impossible, the answer is the one already proposed.
Re:Car Bloat: “Huge Cars Are Terrible for Society”
by ben_w on Monday August 07, 2023 @03:10PM
(#37039321)
Why do you think (0) is impossible? Do laws not exist where you are? Are you not able to change them?
Re:Car Bloat: “Huge Cars Are Terrible for Society”
by rootusrootus on Monday August 07, 2023 @03:22PM
(#37039552)
To make (0) happen you have to force 10s or 100s of millions of people to give up their current vehicle and buy a new one. To some people that sounds feasible, but they're a good bit more authoritarian than the average politician in the US.
Re:Car Bloat: “Huge Cars Are Terrible for Society”
by ChrisHyung on Monday August 07, 2023 @03:59PM
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It doesn't need to be a Fox news black and white argument about personal freedoms. Impose safety regulations that accounts for the people outside the vehicle, and the overall safety of the streets. You don't need to wipe out current SUVs and trucks overnight.
If they took away gas guzzling V8 engines, they can take away unwieldy oversized light pickups and SUVs.
Re:Car Bloat: “Huge Cars Are Terrible for Society”
by ben_w on Monday August 07, 2023 @04:01PM
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Most people don’t own SUVs, even in the USA; and even if they did, laws can be local, so it would be your city or whatever rather than everyone everywhere.
Re:Car Bloat: “Huge Cars Are Terrible for Society”
by ck425 on Monday August 07, 2023 @03:14PM
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But in this case if everyone thinks that way and buys an SUV the world in general is less safe for your family and you're in fact to safer from having a bigger car, if you ever were which seems to be debatable.
Re:Car Bloat: “Huge Cars Are Terrible for Society”
by anigbrowl on Monday August 07, 2023 @03:18PM
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False premise
Re:Car Bloat: “Huge Cars Are Terrible for Society”
by asterix_pano on Monday August 07, 2023 @02:59PM
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Not to 99% of the world, but to 99% of the people in an egocentric society.
Re:Car Bloat: “Huge Cars Are Terrible for Society”
by ChrisHyung on Monday August 07, 2023 @03:49PM
(#37039988)
"Make your passengers more safe, by making your community less safe" is also a not an easy sell, but Americans are paying the big bucks to do it.
At some point your family is going to be on the receiving end. We don't have to be so shortsighted.