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Re:PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default by iraqmtpizza on Monday August 07, 2023 @02:00PM (#37038143)
Package managers are useless for getting the latest maven, gradle, or ant version. This in combination with there being multiple poorly-documented ways to set environment variables and there being no GUI for any of them means that setting up for Java development is massively worse than Windows the instant you step outside of your IDE.
Re:PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default by nwallin on Monday August 07, 2023 @06:44PM (#37041958)
> Package managers are useless for getting the latest maven, gradle, or ant version.

My package manager has the latest versions of maven and gradle. Ant is behind; upstream is up to 1.10.13 but my package manager only has 1.10.9.

Re:PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default by iraqmtpizza on Monday August 07, 2023 @06:48PM (#37041996)
did you have to enter some magic string like ppa:chien that literally no one would ever know
Re:PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default by Tmpod on Monday August 07, 2023 @09:07PM (#37043157)
I'd say they use a rolling release distro like Arch or similar, where packages are updated very often. In fact, I believe Arch even has a tool to seamlessly manage multiple Java installations.
Re:PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default by iraqmtpizza on Monday August 07, 2023 @10:19PM (#37043684)
Maybe in 2054 Debian will figure out how to update packages.
Re:PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default by nwallin on Tuesday August 08, 2023 @01:27AM (#37044860)
No. They're not in an overlay. They're in the primary, central repo.

maven 3.9.4: https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/dev-java/maven-bin

gradle 8.2.1: https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/dev-java/gradle-bin

ant 1.10.9 (upstream is 1.10.13): https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/dev-java/ant

Oddly there's no overlay that has a more up to date version of ant. So even if I did want to enter magic strings, that wouldn't have helped.

Re:PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default by iraqmtpizza on Tuesday August 08, 2023 @09:27PM (#37057696)
lol gentoo. that's not available in debian, bruh
Re:PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default by cornercasechase on Monday August 07, 2023 @09:56PM (#37043515)
I’m sure the versions in AUR are up to date.