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Re:Write your passwords down (2010) by EdTechAndrew on Monday August 07, 2023 @09:41AM (#37034320)
Question for security experts: Is this really that much more secure than a local only password manager, like KeePass? It is fun, but the inconvenience of it feels like its not worth the benefits.
Re:Write your passwords down (2010) by Agent766 on Monday August 07, 2023 @09:45AM (#37034381)
I don't think it is. I recommend using a password manager that supports hardware 2fa. One of the main issues with the proposed paper mechanism are that it doesn't support rotating passwords individually. Another is sites that share second and third characters would share a password.
Re:Write your passwords down (2010) by lobsterthief on Monday August 07, 2023 @09:46AM (#37034384)
Also, wallets are commonly lost and stolen. And houses burn down and are burglarized.

Unless you plan on keeping your passwords in a fireproof safe, which isn’t exactly convenient—especially in our modern mobile world. In 2010, when this article was written, far fewer people did this much computing from a smartphone.

Re:Write your passwords down (2010) by clsec on Monday August 07, 2023 @10:32AM (#37034982)
My laptop, phone, ISP, banking, medical & KeePass passwords are written on paper in a fireproof safe.. I also keep offline backups of my KeePass database.
Re:Write your passwords down (2010) by jrm4 on Monday August 07, 2023 @10:22AM (#37034843)
Oh come ON.

Nowhere NEAR as common, in terms of people affected, as "breaches due to crap companies/software promising safety and not delivering."

Re:Write your passwords down (2010) by moron4hire on Monday August 07, 2023 @10:05AM (#37034622)
Times in the last 40 years that...

  My wallet has been stolen: 0
  My house has burned down: 0
  LastPass has been breached: 2+
  LastPass' browser extension has caused me headaches: 9000+
Re:Write your passwords down (2010) by tstrimple on Monday August 07, 2023 @10:14AM (#37034732)
The piece of paper in wallet browser extension is even worse. No auto-fill or auto-update options at all and you've got to take care of your own backups and recovery.
Re:Write your passwords down (2010) by zlg_codes on Monday August 07, 2023 @04:56PM (#37040844)
More trustworthy than software that may or may not work, may or may not protect secrets, may or may not go for-profit in the future, etc.

Password managers make it so that you are utterly dependent on your password manager or you cannot login to anything. How do you get back online to discuss something if your computer burns in a fire, for example? Backups can alleviate this, but the paper is also a backup. Maybe do the triplicate thing?

I've considered using a password manager but there are too many times where I need to login to something from a machine that isn't mine, on a machine that I don't trust with storing secrets, or other circumstance. I simply don't want to be caught with my pants down and unable to login to something because my password manager isn't installed.

Re:Write your passwords down (2010) by oskarw85 on Monday August 07, 2023 @11:11PM (#37044055)
That's just strawman. I have my pwd database stored in the cloud and synced to all my devices. How do I get back online? I will use one of my other devices. And in an unlikely event that all of those devices get destroyed all at once I will just hit "Forgot password" button.
Re:Write your passwords down (2010) by groby_b on Monday August 07, 2023 @12:18PM (#37036492)
The problem here might be LastPass, not password managers.
Re:Write your passwords down (2010) by predictabl3 on Tuesday August 08, 2023 @10:30AM (#37049533)
This is like posting to HN that GoDaddy screwed you. It's nothing but a self tattle anymore.

The number of times gpg has failed to decrypt one of my "pass" entries: 0.

Re:Write your passwords down (2010) by moron4hire on Thursday August 10, 2023 @07:17AM (#37074638)
Yeah, I'm such a loser, right?

I didn't choose to use LastPass. It was foisted on me by my employer.

Re:Write your passwords down (2010) by mongol on Monday August 07, 2023 @10:21AM (#37034836)
I am not a security expert. But this method I think I could teach my aging parents. Password managers don't work with them, too confusing. Just a simple OAUTH dialog causes a 30 minute phone call with them.
Re:Write your passwords down (2010) by normalaccess on Monday August 07, 2023 @10:59AM (#37035393)
I don't know about more secure, or even practical.. But when I use stuff like this it makes me feel sneaky and clandestine.