Google Maps has become an eyesore

Re:Google Maps has become an eyesore by aikinai on Monday August 07, 2023 @09:07AM (#37033904)

This is a real issue, but it has nothing to do with Google specifically. You’re basically saying that information on road networks should be obscured or restricted so governments can indirectly control the flow of traffic.

Japan actually has some soft regulations in this space about routing and road visibility (e.g. residential roads are hidden when you’re on thoroughfares). But they’re just suggestions so only domestic companies follow them and Google, Apple, etc still provide their usual global algorithms.

Maybe there’s a good solution to this, but I don’t think it’s getting rid of mapping services and going back to security through obscurity.

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Re:Google Maps has become an eyesore by stiray on Monday August 07, 2023 @09:26AM (#37034137)

No, I am saying that by diverting drivers to regional roads without taking into account local population, this is directly Google fault. Why? Before Google started messing with information about congestion, there was no issue. Regional roads swallowed without any problem those few adventurous tourists that decided to use them. Now you find an average Joe everywhere.

Wanna se another interesting example (use google translate), here are statistics of our volunteer based and taxes paid (for everyone in need, even tourists, including helicopter transport) mountain rescue service: https://www.grzs.si/resevanje/statistika-nesrec/

Check number of accidents since 2006 (google maps came out 2005) and constant rise to 2023 (more than twice of the number of interventions). Freaking maps are showing the steepest mountain roads (Alps), to parts without phone signal. Google gets you just far enough to get into troubles.

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Re:Google Maps has become an eyesore by throwaway2037 on Monday August 07, 2023 @10:57AM (#37035353)

The solution sounds simple. Force non-locals to buy a Swiss-like vignette to drive on those roads. And, make it damn expensive, like 1000 Euros. You can probably put a police checkpoint around a corner about 500 meters after the sign and fine people who are missing the vignette something like 2000 Euros. Finally, use social media and obnoxious free media (City AM and friends) to tell everyone about it. It should take care of itself in about 3 months.

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Re:Google Maps has become an eyesore by stiray on Monday August 07, 2023 @01:00PM (#37037215)

You cant charge locals differently than other member states citizens in EU.

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Re:Google Maps has become an eyesore by bee_rider on Monday August 07, 2023 @11:07AM (#37035515)

I wonder if it would be possible to get a bunch of old phones and put them by the side of the road with Google maps on, simulating a traffic jam. Or something like that.

Edit:

https://www.wired.com/story/99-phones-fake-google-maps-traff...

Somebody did it.

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Re:Google Maps has become an eyesore by noAnswer on Monday August 07, 2023 @02:45PM (#37038823)

> this is directly Google fault. > Check number of accidents since 2006

I believe it is a funnel of things: Slovenia became part of EU. GPS navigation in cars and smartphones became a thing. Google isn't even the only traffic data provider. Slovenia has RDS-TMC since 2009. So even a boring TomTom will show some form of congestion info.

But I agree with you, that navigation tools should not direct traffic away from the main roads (especial transit roads). Traffic planners should somehow be able to weight streets or routes.

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