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Re:Linux surpasses the Mac among Steam gamers by fvdessen on Friday August 04, 2023 @04:37AM (#36997165)
The reason why we tend to only consider 'real' desktop OS such as Windows or OSX is that those are the generalists platform where content is produced and work is being done. The others are special purpose devices
Re:Linux surpasses the Mac among Steam gamers by metaphor on Friday August 04, 2023 @04:57AM (#36997311)
...never mind that the Steam Deck has an entirely capable desktop mode[1], and people are indeed using it[2].

[1] https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/671A-4453-E8D2-32...

[2] https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/12sgnw7/what_do_...

Re:Linux surpasses the Mac among Steam gamers by Etherlord87 on Friday August 04, 2023 @06:03AM (#36997769)
Can I launch Blender there and will the experience be comfortable?
Re:Linux surpasses the Mac among Steam gamers by metaphor on Friday August 04, 2023 @06:06AM (#36997791)
Re:Linux surpasses the Mac among Steam gamers by andybak on Friday August 04, 2023 @06:52AM (#36998119)
Yes assuming you use an external keyboard, mouse and probably a display (unless your eyesight is a lot better than mine).

You could probably get away without the mouse if you're ok with touchpad usage. But YMMV.

Re:Linux surpasses the Mac among Steam gamers by Etherlord87 on Friday August 04, 2023 @07:30AM (#36998475)
Yes, but similarly you could connect a computer screen to a server. The idea behind separating desktop computers is, as mentioned above, that it is a particular platform a lot of us are interested in. I imagine neither me or you are typing these comments on a server or a Steam Deck.
Re:Linux surpasses the Mac among Steam gamers by metaphor on Friday August 04, 2023 @08:15AM (#36998902)
> I imagine neither me or you are typing these comments on a server or a Steam Deck.

Stop imagining. I'm quite literally mooching around in bed posting this from Firefox on a Steam Deck in desktop mode docked to my bedroom TV. This[1] isn't your father's Oldsmobile.

[1] https://store.steampowered.com/steamdeck/#SaleSection_24468

Re:Linux surpasses the Mac among Steam gamers by Etherlord87 on Friday August 04, 2023 @11:08AM (#37001054)
OK but I wasn't speaking to you. It's not surprising to me, that out of maybe hundreds of people reading our conversation, there was one using Steamdeck in an unusual way. But I imagine andybak wasn't, the argument being, the chance of him doing so is very low, because that's not how most people use Steamdecks, or from another perspective, I imagine most people commenting on Hackernews do so from a laptop or a desktop, and a mobile phone on the third place.
Re:Linux surpasses the Mac among Steam gamers by andybak on Friday August 04, 2023 @08:42AM (#36999166)
I think you're replying to the wrong person. I was merely commenting on the viability of running Blender on a Steam Deck.
Re:Linux surpasses the Mac among Steam gamers by an-unknown on Friday August 04, 2023 @08:50AM (#36999256)
Yes, but if you connect a computer screen to a server, you'll notice that servers usually don't have GPUs for anything beyond "show a 1280x1024 console screen". Unlike a server, the Steam Deck is literally marketed as a device that can be used as a "desktop computer", that's the entire purpose of the optional USB-C dock.
Re:Linux surpasses the Mac among Steam gamers by Etherlord87 on Friday August 04, 2023 @11:11AM (#37001114)
This is a fair argument, Steam deck really is (much) closer to desktops than other handhelds.
Re:Linux surpasses the Mac among Steam gamers by darkwater on Friday August 04, 2023 @09:14AM (#36999563)
Or connect external monitor, mouse and keyboard to a laptop... So, shouldn't laptops count as "desktop computer" either?
Re:Linux surpasses the Mac among Steam gamers by lolinder on Friday August 04, 2023 @09:33AM (#36999793)
You can't use Blender on a desktop PC that has no monitor attached, nor would it be comfortable to do so on a 13 inch laptop. Is my desktop computer also not a desktop computer because it's not useful until hooked up?
Re:Linux surpasses the Mac among Steam gamers by valeg on Friday August 04, 2023 @09:47AM (#36999979)
Desktop Mode on the Steam Deck is like a DVD playback on PS2 for me; an excuse to buy a portable gaming console. Pretty good one. You can actually do grown up things on it.
Re:Linux surpasses the Mac among Steam gamers by conor- on Friday August 04, 2023 @11:56AM (#37001754)
The Steam Deck is basically a mobile workstation that costs a fraction of what comparable hardware in a laptop would cost you.
Re:Linux surpasses the Mac among Steam gamers by ghusto on Friday August 04, 2023 @01:13PM (#37002851)
Indeed, never mind that, because it's irrelevant. Nobody is using a Steam Deck as their daily machine. Daily Linux users are using their existing machines, and Windows and Mac users are using their PCs and Macs.

Sure, some might dip into desktop mode to do a bit of browsing, or set up emulators, but nobody is saying "hey, I'll just use this as my daily driver now".

Re:Linux surpasses the Mac among Steam gamers by metaphor on Friday August 04, 2023 @01:39PM (#37003241)
Re:Linux surpasses the Mac among Steam gamers by offices on Friday August 04, 2023 @05:19AM (#36997456)
But then we don't include the Linux environment I develop code in. Or the multiple Linux computers I ssh into to develop code.
Re:Linux surpasses the Mac among Steam gamers by realusername on Friday August 04, 2023 @06:16AM (#36997866)
I could make the exact same argument for OSX that you make against linux. It's a lower share platform, mainly used for special purpose (and increasingly so at each version since it's becoming less and less generalist)