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Re:Hackers manage to unlock Tesla software-locked features by tadfisher on Thursday August 03, 2023 @01:13PM (#36988715)
Contract law is running afoul of the first-sale doctrine here. Tesla can not enforce many clauses in a potential contract or license via the legal system, so it's not as cut-and-dry as "you don't own the code".

Copyright has zero application here unless you redistribute Tesla's code or binaries. Reverse-engineering is a legal practice (in US law, at least).

Re:Hackers manage to unlock Tesla software-locked features by toomuchtodo on Thursday August 03, 2023 @01:35PM (#36989038)
> Copyright has zero application here unless you redistribute Tesla's code or binaries. Reverse-engineering is a legal practice (in US law, at least).

Reverse engineering to utilize software you didn't pay for and don't have a license or some other legal authority to use is unlikely to pass muster legally, versus for interoperability purposes.

https://www.eff.org/issues/coders/reverse-engineering-faq (Control-F "What Exceptions Does DMCA Section 1201 Have To Allow Reverse Engineering?")

Re:Hackers manage to unlock Tesla software-locked features by hooverd on Thursday August 03, 2023 @01:39PM (#36989095)
Tesla can't sue you if you splice a switch into the seat heater relays! I don't know if that's a good idea. Or maybe they thought of that and they don't turn on unless there's some of key exchange.
Re:Hackers manage to unlock Tesla software-locked features by toomuchtodo on Thursday August 03, 2023 @01:39PM (#36989101)
That's BMW, not Tesla. Tesla only offers subscriptions for premium mobile network connectivity and FSD.

https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/12/23204950/bmw-subscription...

Re:Hackers manage to unlock Tesla software-locked features by Kirby64 on Thursday August 03, 2023 @02:01PM (#36989408)
The cheapest Tesla's offered a one time unlock for rear seat seat heaters. Not any different from bmw, except bmw also offered a subscription option (bmw also offered a lifetime unlock... at a much higher price).
Re:Hackers manage to unlock Tesla software-locked features by freejazz on Thursday August 03, 2023 @01:42PM (#36989150)
Using software without the license to is copyright infringement, full stop.
Re:Hackers manage to unlock Tesla software-locked features by rightbyte on Thursday August 03, 2023 @01:55PM (#36989320)
In what way? No copy was ever made.
Re:Hackers manage to unlock Tesla software-locked features by freejazz on Thursday August 03, 2023 @01:56PM (#36989347)
Using a copyrighted work without license is copyright infringement. Not sure how to make that clearer to you.
Re:Hackers manage to unlock Tesla software-locked features by dragonwriter on Thursday August 03, 2023 @02:01PM (#36989412)
> Using a copyrighted work without license is copyright infringement

Only for the kinds of “use” that involve the exclusive rights of the copyright owner (“use” generally does not), and even then not always, because there are exceptions to copyright.

Re:Hackers manage to unlock Tesla software-locked features by 8note on Thursday August 03, 2023 @03:42PM (#36990754)
If I put a book a don't have a license to under a table leg to make it stop wobbling, it is not copyright infringement