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Re:A list of recent hostile moves by Google's Chrome team by dbish on Thursday August 03, 2023 @04:21AM (#36982880)
Brave is built on chromium. Cool concept, but not a new browser
Re:A list of recent hostile moves by Google's Chrome team by k__ on Thursday August 03, 2023 @05:34AM (#36983461)
They often say they don't use problematic features.
Re:A list of recent hostile moves by Google's Chrome team by ohgodplsno on Thursday August 03, 2023 @07:17AM (#36984188)
They're still beholden to Google. Their own repo is a set of patches that disable some features. For now, it's mostly feature flags being turned on/off. What happens when Google starts being more hostile and makes disabling features harder ? Can Brave have the manpower to disable that, forever? What if there's a new rendering engine that's 10 times faster but it's so intertwined with a restrictive API that you can't have one without the other?

Brave, for all their talk, are at Google's mercy.

And no, don't give me "but Chromium isn't just Google anymore": it is 90% Google.

Re:A list of recent hostile moves by Google's Chrome team by k__ on Thursday August 03, 2023 @12:27PM (#36988031)
I'd expect them to have the skills to fork Blink.
Re:A list of recent hostile moves by Google's Chrome team by bjord on Thursday August 03, 2023 @02:10PM (#36989526)
not sure about the resources to support its development long-term, though
Re:A list of recent hostile moves by Google's Chrome team by goku12 on Thursday August 03, 2023 @07:47AM (#36984478)
That's like people who don't like what Chromium does, but still uses it along with uBlock. It feels to me like the web needs another engine, not chromium reskins, to stay healthy.
Re:A list of recent hostile moves by Google's Chrome team by bjord on Thursday August 03, 2023 @07:58AM (#36984589)
it'd be a step in the right direction if one of the "new" browsers trying to do cool things were using gecko (firefox's engine)
Re:A list of recent hostile moves by Google's Chrome team by goku12 on Thursday August 03, 2023 @08:36AM (#36985017)
I agree with the sentiment. But the main reason I have heard from browser builders is that Gecko isn't as easy to integrate as Blink. Nyxt browser, for example, is engine-agnostic. They still have trouble integrating Gecko. Servo, on the other hand, is designed with embedding in mind. They have picked up some pace after joining the Linux Foundation. Libweb (Ladybird's engine) is also a candidate. Let's hope that current situation spurs them on.
Re:A list of recent hostile moves by Google's Chrome team by bjord on Thursday August 03, 2023 @09:55AM (#36985978)
I'd been under the impression that most of the useful stuff from servo had already been integrated back into gecko, but I just checked their git and was glad to see that development continues, despite mozilla's layoffs
Re:A list of recent hostile moves by Google's Chrome team by bjord on Thursday August 03, 2023 @07:56AM (#36984565)
right, just problematic people to lead their efforts (brendan eich)
Re:A list of recent hostile moves by Google's Chrome team by k__ on Thursday August 03, 2023 @12:25PM (#36988008)
Fair.

On the other hand, didn't he start the whole thing after getting kicked out of Mozilla?

Re:A list of recent hostile moves by Google's Chrome team by bjord on Thursday August 03, 2023 @02:09PM (#36989508)
pretty much—according to wikipedia, he resigned, though apparently moz actually tried to keep him around (just not as CEO, his appointment as which flagged the donations initially)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Eich