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Re:Horrifying numbers of Americans will not make it to old age by mikeyouse on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @06:11PM (#36978460)
Hackernews never fails to deliver. The comments here are perfectly indicative.

Pretending that implementing a sane healthcare system like Germany or Switzerland is "giving up liberty" relies on the assumption that the tens of millions of Americans without healthcare somehow have more "freedom" than they otherwise would if they could get regular checkups or receive health care that doesn't bankrupt them. Or that there's somehow "freedom" in being tied to a job you don't like solely because of the health insurance coverage. We already more pay per capita for government-run healthcare than e.g. Canada does, except it only covers our poorest and oldest citizens. Just a silly selfish view of 'freedom'.

Re:Horrifying numbers of Americans will not make it to old age by PlunderBunny on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @07:11PM (#36979150)
Agree - someone that's dead has no freedom at all.
Re:Horrifying numbers of Americans will not make it to old age by dontknowwhyihn on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @10:12PM (#36980517)
And someone who is free can choose to be as cautious as they please. They just can’t force their choices on everyone else.
Re:Horrifying numbers of Americans will not make it to old age by PlunderBunny on Thursday August 03, 2023 @05:22PM (#36992144)
I’m not sure I understand - are you arguing that universal healthcare is having a choice forced on you?
Re:Horrifying numbers of Americans will not make it to old age by mattpallissard on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @07:33PM (#36979355)
Nowhere in my comment did I say anything about healthcare systems. I specifically discussed being surveilled or otherwise controlled.