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Re:LK99: Team of Southeast University observed zero resistan... by crazygringo on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @06:10PM (#36978448)
> I'm surprised the prediction markets don't seem to be reacting.

Where can we look at prediction markets on this? For those of us who aren't familiar.

I'm very curious -- because unlike sports scores or political elections, this seems like such a hard thing to define a prediction market around, because what is the exact threshold you're defining and what is the threshold of proof of that thing and on what date is that decided?

Re:LK99: Team of Southeast University observed zero resistan... by asdfman123 on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @06:17PM (#36978508)
Those rules are defined in the actual bet. I think it was "three replications of room temperature superconductivity by X date" or something like that.

I looked closely because I very much wanted to bet tens of thousands of dollars on "no", but I couldn't because I'm in the US. The two outcomes would be I'd make a lot of money or humanity would make the biggest breakthrough in generations.

Re:LK99: Team of Southeast University observed zero resistan... by tshaddox on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @06:21PM (#36978553)
> I think it was "three replications of room temperature superconductivity by X date" or something like that.

That doesn’t sound like a sufficient market resolution condition. Surely it would need to be something like “declared by specific Party X to be a room-temperature superconductor” where Party X is sufficiently trusted by all market participants.

Re:LK99: Team of Southeast University observed zero resistan... by asdfman123 on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @06:25PM (#36978610)
I was worried about that too before making the bet, but I realized I couldn't do it anyway and stopped worrying about it.

You can find the whole resolution criteria here if you want:

https://manifold.markets/QuantumObserver/will-the-lk99-room-...

Re:LK99: Team of Southeast University observed zero resistan... by crazygringo on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @06:29PM (#36978658)
Thanks. And wow, that's as fuzzy as I was afraid it would be:

> ...Willing to adjust this criterion after receiving more info from relevant theorists/experimentalists...

> ...I don't intend to require that replications be published in a peer-reviewed journal... However, I do intend to wait a few weeks/months to resolve so that any pre-print can be adequately investigated...

> ...Since high Tc superconductivity is not my specific field of expertise, I'm willing to defer to a consensus of subject matter experts on whether a pre-print is convincing or not, and I am willing to contact some beyond the usual twitter personalities...

In other words, if there's any kind of gray area in the results, it's going to be whatever this person decides, whenever they want to decide it. Definitely not something I would ever put money behind.

Re:LK99: Team of Southeast University observed zero resistan... by asdfman123 on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @06:35PM (#36978736)
Yeah, I was definitely concerned about losing my money to a technicality.
Re:LK99: Team of Southeast University observed zero resistan... by HDThoreaun on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @07:17PM (#36979222)
Manifold is a funny money market, polymarket is the only one with any semblance of volume in my experience. https://polymarket.com/event/is-the-room-temp-superconductor... resolution criteria also leaves a bit to be desired imo
Re:LK99: Team of Southeast University observed zero resistan... by codethief on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @06:30PM (#36978668)
Yesterday someone posted a couple links and I remember this one:

https://manifold.markets/QuantumObserver/will-the-lk99-room-...

Re:LK99: Team of Southeast University observed zero resistan... by staunton on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @06:16PM (#36978506)
Metaculus has some markets on LK-99, for example