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Re:How I discovered the underground world of credit card net... by dylan604 on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @03:48PM (#36976255)
>but as long as the user understands its shortcomings and reviews/refines its outputs, it's fine.

nice caveat doing a heckuvallot of heavy lifting. i understand that we're talking about coders and sort have this inferred impression that coders will have this understanding, but...that's an awfully broad brush you've used to paint over the simple fact that most people using LLMs (in general) are not understanding this.

Re:How I discovered the underground world of credit card net... by MetaWhirledPeas on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @04:00PM (#36976451)
> the simple fact that most people using LLMs (in general) are not understanding this

How do you know most people using LLMs are not understanding this?

Re:How I discovered the underground world of credit card net... by dylan604 on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @04:00PM (#36976455)
Because ChatGPT has been opened to the public
Re:How I discovered the underground world of credit card net... by inopinatus on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @05:32PM (#36977869)
PHP also lowered the bar to programming, and we got over the consequences of that. Eventually.
Re:How I discovered the underground world of credit card net... by tmpX7dMeXU on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @07:02PM (#36979042)
Can we please get back to the actual topic is hand. The author clearly says that they took measures that’d seem to imply that they have an understanding of the shortcomings of ChatGPT.

You’re using this as a soapbox to cast holier than thou elitist aspersions on an imagined Everyone Else that isn’t as enlightened as you.

This exact “LLMs bad and here’s why!” thread of conversation is getting so old. The fact that it always has the same few talking points is evidence enough that those indulging themselves in it have been party to these conversations before. They know how it goes. And now it’s their turn to say the same old tired and in this case largely irrelevant things to sound smart and to pat themselves on the back.

Re:How I discovered the underground world of credit card net... by kajaktum on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @08:14PM (#36979676)
> simple fact that most people using LLMs (in general) are not understanding this.

And why does that matter? Plenty of people "use JavaScript without fundamental understanding of the language's inner workings" but things are fine (not). My point is, people have always misunderstood the TOOLS that they use, but I don't see the same kinds of rejection before? Yes, people use LLMs thinking it is the end of programming but you can become way, way more productive as a programmer if you use it as a TOOL. The other day I used it to create a simple Python function to generate N distinct colors. It works, it seems to work, it even suggested using hue instead of rgb since its better or whatever (so I looked it up and it is for the eye) so I just used it. Should I spent a week going on a deep dive into the human eye perception and reading up articles on this?