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Re:LK99: Team of Southeast University observed zero resistan... by jacquesm on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @02:52PM (#36975287)
It's all unusual because it is uncharted territory. My guess would be assuming that it all pans out that this is due to various impurities and that it will take a while before we have a sample that is pure enough that all of these properties can be nailed down for good.

What's strange is that drop at higher temps, that's either a measurement anomaly or something really odd.

Re:LK99: Team of Southeast University observed zero resistan... by adolph on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @04:15PM (#36976706)
> due to various impurities and that it will take a while before we have a sample that is pure enough that all of these properties can be nailed down for good.

Do you think it will be "purity" or understanding material variance/specific impurity?

It reminds me of Fogbank, the nuke material claimed to be "so secret they forgot how to make it." Part of the story of manufacturing difficulty was due to increased purity of modern materials/processes.

In a bizarre twist, the new production facility and reverse-engineered production process yielded a version of Fogbank that was of a higher purity than it had been in the past, according to the article. The problem, however, was that for Fogbank to work as intended in existing warhead designs, that previous level of impurity was actually essential. NNSA had to revise the process to ensure the final product was just as impure.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/32867/fogbank-is-myste...

Re:LK99: Team of Southeast University observed zero resistan... by jacquesm on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @04:18PM (#36976743)
> Do you think it will be "purity" or understanding material variance/specific impurity?

It could be either.

As I pointed out in other comments, that's how radioactivity was discovered and it is very well possible that they blundered into something exceptional by accident, it is also possible that both parties got it wrong and there are yet other effects at play (see the big gap in the t/R curve, that really needs explaining).

Re:LK99: Team of Southeast University observed zero resistan... by hyperman1 on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @04:48PM (#36977178)
It reminds me of Max Gergel's Isopropyl bromide book:

When Hildebrand ran the baths the silver came out bright, and stuck to the objects; the minute he left troubles started. No one knew why. Shortly before he left to go into the antique business in Charleston he showed me the secret. It was his chewing tobacco, spat into the bath from time to time. From then on, one man in each shift chewed, and the problem was solved

Re:LK99: Team of Southeast University observed zero resistan... by alephnerd on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @05:25PM (#36977761)
What's the name of this book? It sounds really cool!

Any other recommendations on books about the history of MatSE/Chemistry?

Re:LK99: Team of Southeast University observed zero resistan... by grandpa on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @05:38PM (#36977973)
The title is "Excuse me sir, would you like to buy a kilo of isopropyl bromide?"

https://archive.org/details/gergel_isopropyl_bromide

Re:LK99: Team of Southeast University observed zero resistan... by alephnerd on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @05:43PM (#36978053)
Thanks for the rec! Gunna dive into it tonight!
Re:LK99: Team of Southeast University observed zero resistan... by jacquesm on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @05:59PM (#36978261)
That's a hilarious book: "There was a jar which I had not noticed before containing potassium metal. I knew that potassium was a silvery metal, but this was one inch spheres, green with the oil in which they were immersed. I removed two for a collection of elements we were starting at Columbia High, scraped off the oil and put the marbles in my handkerchief which I added to a collection of miscellaneous glassware in my back pocket. "

Oops... I can see where that is headed.

Re:LK99: Team of Southeast University observed zero resistan... by jeremiahbuckley on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @08:39PM (#36979856)
Oh man, you are in for a treat! This was a terrific read even though I probably only understood 1/3rd of it.

Ignition! By John D. Clark

https://www.amazon.com/Ignition-audiobook/dp/B07CTW1M9D/ref=...

Or, maybe you’ve already read it, in which case: great job. Maybe someone else will see this comment and enjoy it.

I don’t want to spoil if for you, but I loved the last paragraph. I believe a new heroic age for the field is dawning.

Re:LK99: Team of Southeast University observed zero resistan... by alephnerd on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @11:22PM (#36980969)
Oh dang! This has been on my reading list for years! Definetly looking forward to checking it out!!!
Re:LK99: Team of Southeast University observed zero resistan... by jeremiahbuckley on Thursday August 03, 2023 @12:40PM (#36988212)
My last chemistry class was in high school, so I had to glide over a lot of the details. But the story is still awesome even with liberal skimming of chem reaction details.

This book is probably helping me cope with the extreme confusion of all the various LK-99 attempts. Like, it's going to be a hugely messy confusion and slog with lots of results that are "blend-A can meet 5 of the 7 requirements, but not the important ones. blend-B can meet 3 of the 7, but one of the important ones. blend-C looks very promising but doesn't quite meet any of the requirements." for... years.

Re:LK99: Team of Southeast University observed zero resistan... by lambdasquirrel on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @04:50PM (#36977197)
According to wikipedia, that was observed by the original team in Korea.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LK-99#Replication_attempts

> Claimed to have synthesized LK-99 and to have measured superconductivity up to a temperature of 110 kelvin. Claimed to have observed an abrupt drop in resistance between ~300K and 220K, aligning with the Korean LKK team's results. Claimed to have confirmed structural consistency with x-ray diffraction.

Re:LK99: Team of Southeast University observed zero resistan... by jacquesm on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @05:23PM (#36977713)
Yes, but it does not drop nearly as far and there is the suggestion of equipment malfunction while at the same time that gear seems to work just fine around -110 C.
Re:LK99: Team of Southeast University observed zero resistan... by pama on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @06:06PM (#36978372)
Just a word of caution that Wikipedia entries around LK99 are unusually poor at this point in time. The citation of an attempt to publish it in Nature in 2020 is completely made up when the original Korean only mentions in passing a completely different paper that was withdrawn from Nature at the time. I hope the understandable excitement around this new invention will allow for a correct eventual accounting of the events.