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Re:Adtech is built on a privacy fault line by mrweasel on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @02:14PM (#36974692)
I feel like it was bound to happen. There has been a huge momentum behind the online ad industry for almost 20 years. The results are questionable, but we've just kept moving forward. It's a lot like the dotcom boom in some sense, there's now a huge number of people working in advertising who honestly knows very little about advertising. They know a lot about ad-spend, how to click around in Adwords, SEO and putting trackers on websites, but not running a successful advertising campaign. They've almost broke the internet with their shit, certain categories are now completely gone from some search engines, replaced by ads, poorly written blogs and SEO junk.

On LinkedIn I follow a few of these people, people I know from working in e-commerce years ago. They have no glue about what's happening. They see the thing they've worked on for 15 years fall apart, but won't accept any of the blame. They blame Apple, the EU, anyone but themselves. They don't see any of the damage that they caused. The internet and it's users is something to extract value from, not something that holds any value on it's own in their minds.

It's time that the online ad business get a reset. Ads will still be important, but the way they are managed and implemented needs to be adjusted.

Re:Adtech is built on a privacy fault line by speed_spread on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @02:40PM (#36975098)
Adtech will not collapse because it is too useful as a surveillance tool. State actors will subsidize the ad industry as much as needed to ensure that the user activity data stays collected by the private sector in countries outside their realm of network control.
Re:Adtech is built on a privacy fault line by imchillyb on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @02:57PM (#36975377)
In countries /inside/ their realm of network control as well.

Governments purchasing 3rd party collected data isn't illegal whereas the government obtaining the collected data themselves would be illegal.

Re:Adtech is built on a privacy fault line by BlueTemplar on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @07:05PM (#36979085)
How does PRISM factor into this ? (You know, due to which the GAFAMs are effectively, though still theoretically banned in the EU since 2015, because it makes the US a rogue state ?)
Re:Adtech is built on a privacy fault line by smoldesu on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @03:58PM (#36976422)
> The internet and it's users is something to extract value from, not something that holds any value on it's own in their minds.

When in the 21st century hasn't this been true?

The internet is a commodity you pay for from an ISP. They control your traffic and log it to whatever extent they desire. Site operators choose to allow or deny visitors based on arbitrary things; membership, adblock, browser choice, etc. If you don't provide enough value to the site operator (or alternatively, cost too much to host) then advertisement becomes inevitable. Even your browser was monetized and weaponized since Microsoft realized they could pack-in web clients. Now everyone is being abused by some corporate benefactor.

The online ad business is a reflection of how every first world government has let FAANG roll all over them and consequentially exploit their citizens. The only way we "reset" the ad industry is by bullwhipping Big Tech until they recognize your freedom as a computer owner.

Re:Adtech is built on a privacy fault line by iamacyborg on Thursday August 03, 2023 @02:27AM (#36982122)
>there's now a huge number of people working in advertising who honestly knows very little about advertising. They know a lot about ad-spend, how to click around in Adwords, SEO and putting trackers on websites, but not running a successful advertising campaign.

You’ve just described most of the marketing folks I’ve worked with for the last decade.