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Re:How I discovered the underground world of credit card net... by danudey on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @12:29PM (#36973140)
I was visiting Seattle (from Vancouver) a few years ago, and they didn't want me to use my chip card as a chip card because if they did then I couldn't tip. What the heck is that all about?

Also, we're still hearing stories about merchants in the US starting to accept Apple Pay, whereas it worked fine in almost every retailer in Canada the day it was available - even though it wasn't available in Canada for a long time, American visitors (or Canadians with American credit cards) could use Apple Pay on launch day at any retailer that supported tap-to-pay, which was easily most of them.

Re:How I discovered the underground world of credit card net... by bmicraft on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @01:24PM (#36973923)
> What the heck is that all about?

Tax fraud? I've never seen a card reader in a restaurant (here in europe) where they couldn't either enter a completely arbitrary amount to pay, or add a tip.

Re:How I discovered the underground world of credit card net... by tptacek on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @01:32PM (#36974058)
That's not a thing. Americans universally pay for restaurant meals on cards.
Re:How I discovered the underground world of credit card net... by kasey_junk on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @02:02PM (#36974523)
It was probably an issue with that particular merchants POS. Merchants have very little incentive to update their POS systems so technology changes are very hard to get rolled out. Especially for smaller merchants which many restaurants are.

It’s a network effect thing. Because tap to pay wasn’t supported by the POS vendors US consumers did not get much improvement in experience because of it, so there wasn’t demand from merchants. With Apple Pay there is a huge improvement for consumers (not having to carry the credit card) it has finally forced merchants and their supporting POS vendors to support it.

Between that and the disruption in the POS market the iPad (and similar devices) brought, POS vendors have had to become more flexible.

Re:How I discovered the underground world of credit card net... by kalleboo on Thursday August 03, 2023 @02:22AM (#36982100)
Re: Apple Pay acceptance, some of the big chains took the chance to push hard for their own payment solutions ("Walmart Pay") in the hopes of not having to pay card processing fees anymore. Obviously the market has spoken and one by one they've been giving up.