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Re:Earth Overshoot Day by unregistereddev on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @10:55AM (#36971755)
> We are not some kind of gods that can shape it.

We may not be gods, but we have certainly shaped the world. We've converted forest and prairie into farmland, changed the course of rivers, reshaped mountains for our own amusement, built structures that dominate local landscapes, and burned so many fuels that we seem to be changing global weather patterns.

It is entirely reasonable to make an effort to better preserve our habitat.

Re:Earth Overshoot Day by burkaman on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @10:50AM (#36971688)
Climate change is an immediate problem for us, not the world. The world will continue along fine even if our civilization collapses.
Re:Earth Overshoot Day by lstodd on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @10:55AM (#36971749)
Climate always changes.

It is hubris-as-a-sin to think that a) we changed it to the worse and b) we are able to change it back.

No, we did not and we can not. There is no single 'climate' also.

All we can do is adapt, but instead we're throwing resources at an altar of a false god so to say.

Re:Earth Overshoot Day by unregistereddev on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @10:58AM (#36971794)
If it is hubris-as-a-sin to think we changed the world for the worse, then it is ignorance-as-a-sin to pretend the massive quantities of fuels we burn would not have an effect on the world.

We can look around us and visibly see changes humans have made to this world. It isn't hard to conjecture that these changes likely have unintended effects.

Re:Earth Overshoot Day by shinryuu on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @11:00AM (#36971829)
Why is it hubris? Human beings were behind the ozone hole, and we were also able to stop it.
Re:Earth Overshoot Day by taylorconor on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @10:57AM (#36971776)
> No, we did not

Citation needed

Re:Earth Overshoot Day by jakelazaroff on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @11:35AM (#36972329)
Please just read this: https://xkcd.com/1732/
Re:Earth Overshoot Day by maxehmookau on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @10:57AM (#36971782)
> It is hubris-as-a-sin to think that a) we changed it to the worse

That's demonstrably untrue though and to be blind to that is to be blind to decades of well-researched climate science.

Re:Earth Overshoot Day by jakelazaroff on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @12:14PM (#36972908)
Please just read this: https://xkcd.com/1732/
Re:Earth Overshoot Day by burkaman on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @12:31PM (#36973173)
I'm not sure this person believes the Earth is that old
Re:Earth Overshoot Day by fauntle on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @11:01AM (#36971830)
Burying your head in the sand out of some sort of false piety is not the answer.