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Re:The Psychology of Cults – Syllabus (Harvard) by sidlls on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @10:18PM (#36966172)
The difference between Mormonism (or any other religion) and a cult is one of degree, not kind
Re:The Psychology of Cults – Syllabus (Harvard) by mdanger007 on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @10:38PM (#36966325)
That is not true. A defining characteristic of cults is a sense of imminite danger from government or status quo and a willingness to lay down ones life in defense of it. To say that is a few degrees off of what major religions think means your compass is waaay off!
Re:The Psychology of Cults – Syllabus (Harvard) by maxfurman on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @10:46PM (#36966386)
This would have described the Mormon church not long ago. That's why they went to Utah!
Re:The Psychology of Cults – Syllabus (Harvard) by mdanger007 on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @10:59PM (#36966475)
You got a point: new religions are cult like but you got to agree that fleeing religious persecution and loading up stockpiles are also kinds, not degrees!
Re:The Psychology of Cults – Syllabus (Harvard) by voisin on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @11:27PM (#36966622)
> A defining characteristic of cults is a sense of imminite danger from government or status quo and a willingness to lay down ones life in defense of it.

Is this actually a defining characteristic? I didn’t think cults were defined so narrowly. I understood cults to simply be highly insular groups with extreme views. Like the Flat Earth Society would a cult, though I don’t think they feel imminent danger or are willing to lay down their lives.

Re:The Psychology of Cults – Syllabus (Harvard) by jwally on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @10:33PM (#36966286)
The joke is the difference between a cult and a religion is 100 years.
Re:The Psychology of Cults – Syllabus (Harvard) by mdanger007 on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @10:42PM (#36966349)
I like the definition: myths are religions people no longer believe in. Cults are far more exclusive and demanding of their members
Re:The Psychology of Cults – Syllabus (Harvard) by mvncleaninst on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @01:37AM (#36967304)
Would disagree. Cults have some charismatic leader running the show, afaik the LDS (or regular organized religions more generally) aren't like this
Re:The Psychology of Cults – Syllabus (Harvard) by sidlls on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @02:26AM (#36967656)
The priest (or equivalent) generally serves this role in kind, and for some sects degree. Religions include the same kind of inoculation with respect to belief, exclusion, and suspicion of outside influences that cults have: it’s just expressed differently (sometimes).
Re:The Psychology of Cults – Syllabus (Harvard) by stvltvs on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @10:28AM (#36971380)
Joseph Smith and Brigham Young were the charismatic cult leaders of Mormonism. Since their time, the mainstream Mormon Church headquartered in Salt Lake City has become less and less cultish and more bureaucratic, yet they still qualify as a cult according to the BITE model, and there are many Mormon splinter groups that are among the worst cults active today.