Re:A Room-Temperature Superconductor? New Developments
by nwiswell on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @02:56PM
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It would be sub-1% gold content. We're talking about gold doping, specifically substitution in the Pb(1) site, not an alloy.
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Re:A Room-Temperature Superconductor? New Developments
by themagician on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @03:30PM
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Any amount would be a big deal. Consider a lead, tungsten or uranium projectile with a superconducting jacket fired from a railgun. Then consider how many projectiles we'd make.
Personally, I think it's just cosmic coincidence that the elements at play here are also the same used in bullets.
Re:A Room-Temperature Superconductor? New Developments
by robbintt on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @03:59PM
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FWIW strip mining operations till materials for ~6 PPM gold.
Re:A Room-Temperature Superconductor? New Developments
by cperciva on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @04:08PM
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The superconductor itself would be 7.44% gold, but the wire would probably be much less -- superconducting tape isn't particularly strong so it will probably be wrapped up in layers of insulator and support wires.
Re:A Room-Temperature Superconductor? New Developments
by nwiswell on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @04:15PM
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I think that's right. There's no indication that it's mechanically strong, so you'd have it wrapped in layers of rubber/epoxy and steel cables in order to suspend it between power poles or transmission pylons.
YBCO tape has a critical current in the 1-10 MA/cm2 range, so if the properties of this RT stuff is anywhere close, the actual superconducting element of the wire could potentially be very thin.
Re:A Room-Temperature Superconductor? New Developments
by csteubs on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @04:08PM
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Having to handle lead for a practically unretrievable amount of gold would (I hope) be enough of a deterrent for the vast majority of "citizen scrappers". Worst case, I think a Pb/Au scrap grey-market would look something like the current catalytic converter market, where raw materials are purchased at set rate by an intermediary and then sold for further processing. Most people know there's gold in their computer parts, but still opt for the recycling bin/ziploc bag in a junk drawer.
Re:A Room-Temperature Superconductor? New Developments
by jacquesm on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @04:49PM
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Nah, they'll just drop it in a smelter and sort it using gravity.
Re:A Room-Temperature Superconductor? New Developments
by rajamaka on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @05:07PM
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It might deter those in wealthy countries, everywhere else would be another story.
Re:A Room-Temperature Superconductor? New Developments
by araes on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @04:16PM
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7.44% gold? That's ~$75 per oz of material. And you're talking about lead cable. Its kind of heavy, even if its thin. And it seems really easy to melt and separate. Notably, most power lines are actually aluminum, which is probably where people would really want this. Also chosen for its low weight / density, cause if you're gonna hang lines 100's of feet long, you want 2700 kg/m3, not 9000 kg/m3, and definitely not 11000 kg/m3. Although probably also significant applications in mm, um, and nm scale wiring.
Re:A Room-Temperature Superconductor? New Developments
by neltnerb on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @11:07PM
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At the end of their comment it notes that because it's a superconductor it would be thinner.
Perhaps assume an aluminum cladding for strength? Depending on how strong of a superconductor it is perhaps it's only 1% superconductor and 99% aluminum on top of the 10% content. So 0.1%?
I dunno, all these metals will be valuable in the future. Just saying, there's another large factor in estimating the gold content (conductivity saturation) that we don't know what it might be.