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Re:Could the world go PFAS-free? Proposal to ban ‘forever ch... by s1artibartfast on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @02:32PM (#36960325)
This is a somewhat one-sided perspective. The end polluter is often the US government itself. Do we hold the government officials to that same standard? How about the citizens that elected them?
Re:Could the world go PFAS-free? Proposal to ban ‘forever ch... by rngname22 on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @03:02PM (#36960857)
I think the only real answer we can have is, yes. Unless something really fundamental changes, where egregious forms of pollution of forever chemicals is seen the same way things like incest, rape, or murder, then nothing will change.
Re:Could the world go PFAS-free? Proposal to ban ‘forever ch... by TylerE on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @05:50PM (#36963620)
The problem is the GOP has spend the last 40 years trying to kill the EPA (Which, ironically, was created by Nixon).

When Congress continually undermines and rolls back the agencies rules, who actually is to blame? The regulator? Congress? The voters?

Re:Could the world go PFAS-free? Proposal to ban ‘forever ch... by s1artibartfast on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @07:28PM (#36964719)
Should we lock up fireman who use pfas and all of our local governments that instruct and allow them to do so? Should we equivocate putting out apartment fires with murder?

The point I'm trying to make is that this scenario isn't as black and white as one might think. It's easy to be an absolutist about it when it's not your child burning to death.

Re:Could the world go PFAS-free? Proposal to ban ‘forever ch... by mrguyorama on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @05:01PM (#36962839)
If it is a horrific crime to produce the pollution in the first place, the US government could not buy that product on the open market. I don't care who WANTS to buy bad shit, it is on you as a company to not make that bad shit.

For some reason, even though plenty of people are ready and willing to buy and sell murder, we still don't allow it.

Both can be bad and disallowed.

Re:Could the world go PFAS-free? Proposal to ban ‘forever ch... by s1artibartfast on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @08:39PM (#36965368)
Sure, I just think the majority of the blame is misplaced.

The US government knew it was bad, bought it, and then knowingly created the vast majority of contamination.

They then Sue manufacturers like 3M, while continuing to buy and use it and cause more contamination.

It is like buying a knife, stabbing a bunch of people, then suing the manufacturer while still running around stabbing people. It screams of misdirection.

Re:Could the world go PFAS-free? Proposal to ban ‘forever ch... by superchroma on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @06:32AM (#36969076)
Yes government should be held to the same standard. They should live in fear of the law, as many citizens do.