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Re:Marijuana Addiction Is Real. Those Struggling Often Face ... by mcpackieh on Monday July 31, 2023 @05:56PM (#36949439)
If you want to kick caffeine, I recommend switching to caffeine pills and continue using as many of them as you need to feel normal, then start ramping down the dose. Since pills are discrete it's hard to cheat. When I do this I usually start at 400mg (sometimes 600mg) a day then over the next month ramp down to 100mg a day until finally going to zero. It takes me about a month before I can function normal with no caffeine.

...then a few months later I decide to start again. Oh well. I've done the above about half a dozen times. It's fairly easy to defeat the chemical addiction which I experience as you describe (really awful headaches, fatigue, lack of concentration, etc), but eventually I'll pick it back up to get a little extra edge.

Re:Marijuana Addiction Is Real. Those Struggling Often Face ... by TaylorAlexander on Monday July 31, 2023 @06:06PM (#36949539)
Something I used to do is make a big pot of coffee and sip on it throughout the day, which was very hard to regulate (and it was also just too much caffeiene). Now I make a single cup of coffee in the aeropress and I use 16 grams of beans which i weigh manually. And I only have one cup of coffee in the morning instead of multiples throughout the day.

Point is, weighing beans and using the aeropress helps me keep my dosage consistent so I don't go overboard.

Re:Marijuana Addiction Is Real. Those Struggling Often Face ... by depereo on Monday July 31, 2023 @07:09PM (#36950130)
Decaf is pretty good these days; When I don't feel like ditching the actual cups of liquid I swap over. It's certainly what I reach for in the afternoon if I want another coffee for whatever reason. Might be another option if you still enjoy the ritual of coffee making and consumption.
Re:Marijuana Addiction Is Real. Those Struggling Often Face ... by TaylorAlexander on Monday July 31, 2023 @07:25PM (#36950265)
Recommended brands? I bought some Blue Bottle decaf and I still didn't like it, but of course there are a lot of variables.
Re:Marijuana Addiction Is Real. Those Struggling Often Face ... by depereo on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @04:44PM (#36962559)
Being in rural New Zealand; I'd be amazed if we had the same product options for decaf.
Re:Marijuana Addiction Is Real. Those Struggling Often Face ... by jw1224 on Monday July 31, 2023 @06:16PM (#36949634)
Perhaps (respectfully) this is not good advice? In my experience a “sense of control” over one’s addiction only serves to keep it alive.
Re:Marijuana Addiction Is Real. Those Struggling Often Face ... by projectazorian on Monday July 31, 2023 @06:31PM (#36949766)
If you have demonstrated the ability to quit any time you want, is it an addiction? Or a tool you find useful?
Re:Marijuana Addiction Is Real. Those Struggling Often Face ... by cyberax on Monday July 31, 2023 @07:08PM (#36950105)
The technical term is "dependency". Caffeine causes physiological changes, and withdrawal is unpleasant.
Re:Marijuana Addiction Is Real. Those Struggling Often Face ... by roywiggins on Monday July 31, 2023 @06:47PM (#36949911)
I've tapered caffeine successfully by measuring out instant coffee. This works pretty well for managing the physical effects of caffeine withdrawal, or at least spreading them out. Basically, I 1) committed to only having the same exact amount of instant coffee, at the same exact times, every day, and then 2) every so often, reduced it a bit. Then I switched to a very moderate amount of decaf (which, yes, has a little bit of caffeine in it, but not enough to cause me problems).

I did this because I was getting withdrawal headaches most mornings, which is an unpleasant way to begin the day- I wasn't even drinking that much caffeine!

Re:Marijuana Addiction Is Real. Those Struggling Often Face ... by cyberax on Monday July 31, 2023 @07:06PM (#36950094)
Caffeine doesn't have a strong psychological addiction, but it's physiological withdrawal symptoms are bad.
Re:Marijuana Addiction Is Real. Those Struggling Often Face ... by xattt on Monday July 31, 2023 @07:25PM (#36950263)
I have not found a drink equivalent to a coffee to drink in the morning. This is my psychologic addition.

All these fake coffees (I’m looking at you, chicory root) taste like ash-trays from the grimiest bar in town.

Re:Marijuana Addiction Is Real. Those Struggling Often Face ... by fosk on Monday July 31, 2023 @07:34PM (#36950356)
Ginger shots made at home with some orange juice or apple juice help a lot.
Re:Marijuana Addiction Is Real. Those Struggling Often Face ... by kerkeslager on Monday July 31, 2023 @10:19PM (#36951566)
Maybe for you it doesn't have strong psychological addiction, but for me it certainly did.
Re:Marijuana Addiction Is Real. Those Struggling Often Face ... by cyberax on Monday July 31, 2023 @10:35PM (#36951673)
I never really liked coffee, but I drank it at work just as a pretext to talk to other people.

I didn't have a coffee maker at home at that time. So I started getting headaches on Sunday. I made the connection eventually, after my headache completely disappeared 20 minutes after drinking a cup of coffee with a friend.

This appears to be a pretty common scenario.

Re:Marijuana Addiction Is Real. Those Struggling Often Face ... by gorjusborg on Monday July 31, 2023 @06:07PM (#36949544)
I second that recommendation. I've weaned off caffeine multiple times using that method.

Just be careful not to double dose when taking the pills.

Re:Marijuana Addiction Is Real. Those Struggling Often Face ... by kerkeslager on Monday July 31, 2023 @06:26PM (#36949714)
It's telling that both people recommending this method have seen it fail multiple times.

While I'm not aware of efficacy studies of different methods of quitting caffeine, cold turkey seems most effective for nicotine and a few other stimulants.

Re:Marijuana Addiction Is Real. Those Struggling Often Face ... by gorjusborg on Thursday August 03, 2023 @04:33PM (#36991419)
The irony isn't lost on me, but we're recommending a method to safely wean off the substance to prevent having withdrawal symptoms, which have prevented me from coming off from caffeine in the past.

I wouldn't frame starting up again as a failure. Quitting short vs. long term are two different things.