Re:Running Arch Linux on the Framework Laptop 13
by rubin55 on Monday July 31, 2023 @03:02PM
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I wrote an article about using Arch Linux with the (new, probably as valid for older ones) Framework Laptop 13. Should prove useful to any Linux-running peeps in any case!
Re:Running Arch Linux on the Framework Laptop 13
by IlPeach on Monday July 31, 2023 @05:21PM
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Thanks for sharing, also running Arch on the Framework (11th gen). I will review and compare some of the conf to mine to see if there's anything interesting I've missed recently.
I was hoping to upgrade but the queues are minimum 3 months for anything and might wait a bit more hoping they'll be able to scale up production (or maybe I'm just dreaming)
Re:Running Arch Linux on the Framework Laptop 13
by rubin55 on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @06:58AM
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Hey, yeah sure! Erm, let's see. So I use libvirt and QEMU/KVM, where libvirt is essentially an api that makes interfacing with QEMU and KVM more consistent and nicer.
Then I use virsh (command-line) and/or virt-manager (gui) to create virtual machines (these in turn talk to libvirt). The machines kan be anything Qemu supports, so you can emulate PA-RISC, Alpha, Mips, ARM, i386, AMD64, you name it. You can then install OS'es on them. There are some freaks out there that have been running Windows NT MIPS and HP-UX 10.20 for PA-RISC on it.
Most of my machines are doing KVM, which essentially is hardware-assisted virtualization. This requires the VM to be AMD64 though.
You have a gui to these things (and SSH of course) through Spice. With the right drivers and agents (not available for all operating systems) you even have automatic guest display resizing, mouse in/out, copy/paste, etc.
Re:Running Arch Linux on the Framework Laptop 13
by rubin55 on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @06:51AM
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Hey, yeah sure, let's see. I started working this morning at 07:45, it's now 13:45. I had a 20 minute video conference call and watched two 15 minute videos on Youtube. At idle, I had ~3 watts, doing small typing things, coding, I had ~5 watts. During the conference call I had ~15 watts and during the Youtube videos powertop reported ~9 watts.
So have been going for 6 hours, definitely some heavier CPU usage during the conference call and youtube videos, current battery is at 33% and indicates (based on my current usage: updating my blog and firefox'ing around) 3 hours and 45 minutes left.
Re:Running Arch Linux on the Framework Laptop 13
by Nmi2osv7 on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @11:57AM
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yes it does? consider running a bash script, or piping commands over ssh. if you lose the connection only the first command might send. (bash is line and command oriented of course, so this is pretty obvious...)
In case those that didn't know, the FW laptop is so popular amongst Arch users that it has its own dedicated Wiki page (and thread on the Framework discus)
Re:Running Arch Linux on the Framework Laptop 13
by 12345hn6789 on Monday July 31, 2023 @11:39PM
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There really is no correlation between the wiki page and adaption rate. It's because the arch wiki has such depth that there is a page on it :) thank your contributors and maintainers daily.
Re:Running Arch Linux on the Framework Laptop 13
by rubin55 on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @07:02AM
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I have answered to another poster in a bit more detail, but a conservative estimate with moderate to a few moments of heavy usage is ~9 hours. I have done 11+ on pure-coding stints (no video, no games).
Re:Running Arch Linux on the Framework Laptop 13
by rubin55 on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @07:02AM
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Yeah, good point. I wrote them as ``` ``` blocks in markdown, and it doesn't wrap apparently. Will look into if I can tell Jekyll to do something there (would not prefer to escape everything hard-coded to 80 lines or some-such).
Update: Ha! I got this working. I added a "code { white-space: pre-wrap !important;}" css line in the <style> section of my custom html header. Seems to look much better.
Re:Running Arch Linux on the Framework Laptop 13
by rubin55 on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @07:00AM
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I have answered to another poster in a bit more detail, but a conservative estimate with moderate to a few moments of heavy usage is ~9 hours. I have done 11+ on pure-coding stints (no video, no games).
I was hoping to upgrade but the queues are minimum 3 months for anything and might wait a bit more hoping they'll be able to scale up production (or maybe I'm just dreaming)
maybe pointers to virtualization ideas?
Then I use virsh (command-line) and/or virt-manager (gui) to create virtual machines (these in turn talk to libvirt). The machines kan be anything Qemu supports, so you can emulate PA-RISC, Alpha, Mips, ARM, i386, AMD64, you name it. You can then install OS'es on them. There are some freaks out there that have been running Windows NT MIPS and HP-UX 10.20 for PA-RISC on it.
Most of my machines are doing KVM, which essentially is hardware-assisted virtualization. This requires the VM to be AMD64 though.
I currently run 10 virtual machines:
castel (rhel6) - chimera (chimera-linux) - dragon (dragonflybsd6) - falcon (freebsd13) - gygax (guix) - haiku (haiku) - nomon (netbsd9) - seven (win7) - square (winnt) - xenon (alpine)
You have a gui to these things (and SSH of course) through Spice. With the right drivers and agents (not available for all operating systems) you even have automatic guest display resizing, mouse in/out, copy/paste, etc.
So have been going for 6 hours, definitely some heavier CPU usage during the conference call and youtube videos, current battery is at 33% and indicates (based on my current usage: updating my blog and firefox'ing around) 3 hours and 45 minutes left.
In case those that didn't know, the FW laptop is so popular amongst Arch users that it has its own dedicated Wiki page (and thread on the Framework discus)
For example many ThinkPad models do: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Laptop/Lenovo but also a number of ASUS machines: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Laptop/ASUS etc.
“here is the partition structure i want, here is the filesystem, the users, the packages i need installed and the services i need running”
Setting up machines and customizing installations would be a breeze.
Doing some things idempotently can be an interesting challenge
Update: Ha! I got this working. I added a "code { white-space: pre-wrap !important;}" css line in the <style> section of my custom html header. Seems to look much better.