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Re:BHP says battery electric cheaper than hydrogen as it dum... by pjc50 on Monday July 31, 2023 @11:41AM (#36944327)
Synthfuel apparently exists already and the US Navy has a solution. It's just very energy-intensive.

The shipping industry is investigating making ammonia from the hydrogen and then using that in fuel cells; it has the advantage that it's easier to handle. https://maritime-executive.com/article/highest-power-output-...

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Re:BHP says battery electric cheaper than hydrogen as it dum... by HPsquared on Monday July 31, 2023 @01:29PM (#36946007)
The Germans in WW2 made large quantities of synthetic fuel. It's not new, the same challenges continue to exist. Most of their military aviation fuel was apparently synthetic due to oil shortages.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_fuel#History

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Re:BHP says battery electric cheaper than hydrogen as it dum... by FreshStart on Monday July 31, 2023 @02:31PM (#36946863)
The whole idiotic war would have been over the moment the free trade system of the US would have surplanted the pre-existing empires and their embargoes. Harber+Bosch + liquid gas is what feeds the world and creates the pre-requisite to all peace.
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Re:BHP says battery electric cheaper than hydrogen as it dum... by getwiththeprog on Monday July 31, 2023 @11:21PM (#36951919)
Liquid gas may feed some of the world, but there are many left out with this centralized system.

I am glad that decentralised electrical from solar and wind can fully replace the old system and look foward to a new many-noded culture which can allow all humanity to flourish.

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Re:BHP says battery electric cheaper than hydrogen as it dum... by pjc50 on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @06:51AM (#36954517)
> the free trade system of the US would have surplanted the pre-existing empires and their embargoes

This doesn't make any sense: free trade is not a magic spell against the desires of imperialism, and the US embargoed Japan slightly before Japan attacked the US (but long into Japan's war with China).

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