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Re:Conduit: Simple, fast and reliable chat server powered by... by rhn_mk1 on Monday July 31, 2023 @01:29AM (#36939112)
> what do you like about XMPP?

- plenty of fast native clients

- server resource usage

- simplicity of the protocol, especially the encryption

Re:Conduit: Simple, fast and reliable chat server powered by... by rglullis on Monday July 31, 2023 @01:50AM (#36939214)
> plenty of fast native clients

And God help you making all of them talk to each other properly...

Re:Conduit: Simple, fast and reliable chat server powered by... by leetnewb on Monday July 31, 2023 @03:49AM (#36939815)
I have used conversations (and derivatives), gajim, dino, converse.js, and movim to have omemo encrypted xmpp conversations; and I talk to people on Siskin and have used profanity in the past. Seems to work properly, unless I'm missing something.
Re:Conduit: Simple, fast and reliable chat server powered by... by j16sdiz on Monday July 31, 2023 @04:09AM (#36939929)
Before XEP-0459, every client implement their own subset of standard and seldom talks with clients that implement a differnt subset.
Re:Conduit: Simple, fast and reliable chat server powered by... by rglullis on Monday July 31, 2023 @04:08AM (#36939919)
Now try to make a voice and/or video call.
Re:Conduit: Simple, fast and reliable chat server powered by... by leetnewb on Monday July 31, 2023 @04:37AM (#36940093)
I do/have, with conversations, siskin, movim, and I think dino. Can you expand on your experiences?
Re:Conduit: Simple, fast and reliable chat server powered by... by rglullis on Monday July 31, 2023 @04:44AM (#36940124)
gajim, pidgin, dino... none of them worked when I tried to call from my desktop to my Conversations' app on Android.
Re:Conduit: Simple, fast and reliable chat server powered by... by progval on Monday July 31, 2023 @07:47AM (#36941232)
Does any Matrix client support voice/video calls other than Element (including Hydrogen as it shares Element Web's codebase)?
Re:Conduit: Simple, fast and reliable chat server powered by... by timokoesters on Monday July 31, 2023 @07:53AM (#36941293)
Fluffychat supports it too. Check out https://matrix.org/ecosystem/clients/, you can click the clients for a feature list.
Re:Conduit: Simple, fast and reliable chat server powered by... by Arathorn on Monday July 31, 2023 @02:07PM (#36946520)
Hydrogen does not share a single line of Element Web’s codebase.
Re:Conduit: Simple, fast and reliable chat server powered by... by progval on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @01:32AM (#36952695)
I must have got it confused with another client then. Wasn't there another lightweight one made by Element-the-company that reuses the react SDK?
Re:Conduit: Simple, fast and reliable chat server powered by... by Arathorn on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @10:14PM (#36966138)
nope.
Re:Conduit: Simple, fast and reliable chat server powered by... by kitkat_new on Monday July 31, 2023 @07:58AM (#36941334)
> - simplicity of the protocol, especially the encryption

only simple for developers though - due to the lack of Cross Signing it is very difficult to keep communication secure.

Re:Conduit: Simple, fast and reliable chat server powered by... by rhn_mk1 on Monday July 31, 2023 @10:00AM (#36942585)
What is cross siging in the messaging context?
Re:Conduit: Simple, fast and reliable chat server powered by... by kitkat_new on Monday July 31, 2023 @10:24AM (#36942986)
implicitly verifying all (including future) of somebody's devices although running through the verification process only once.

Without it, e.g. if you log into a new session, you have to verify with all your contacts before you can safely use that session for communication