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Re:The Long History of Nobody Wants to Work Anymore by cypherpunks01 on Sunday July 30, 2023 @10:32AM (#36931502)
I found 2011 to be the most enlightening quote:

> Man, what a weird week. Unless it's on their own terms, it seems nobody wants to work anymore.

It's the only one with any acknowledgement that agreeable terms may actually be needed in order to attract people to work. It doesn't take a PhD to figure this out!

Utah Phillips, one of my favorite storytellers and all-around anarchist and hobo has a line I was reminded of:

That’s when [Fry Pan Jack] told me – you know, he’d been tramping since 1927 -he said, “I told myself in ’27, if I cannot dictate the conditions of my labor, I will henceforth cease to work.” Hah! You don’t have to go to college to figure these things out, no sir! He said, “I learned when I was young that the only true life I had was the life of my brain. But if it’s true the only real life I have is the life of my brain, what sense does it make to hand that brain to somebody for eight hours a day for their particular use on the presumption that at the end of the day they will give it back in an unmutilated condition?” Fat chance!

Re:The Long History of Nobody Wants to Work Anymore by shove on Sunday July 30, 2023 @10:38AM (#36931576)
In a similar vein, this poem by Pedro Pietri: Telephone Booth (number 905 1/2)

woke up this morning feeling excellent, picked up the telephone dialed the number of my equal opportunity employer to inform him I will not be into work today Are you feeling sick? the boss asked me No Sir I replied: I am feeling too good to report to work today, if I feel sick tomorrow I will come in early

Re:The Long History of Nobody Wants to Work Anymore by influx on Sunday July 30, 2023 @11:48AM (#36932449)
I read that in Mitch Hedberg‘s voice.
Re:The Long History of Nobody Wants to Work Anymore by irrational on Sunday July 30, 2023 @11:56AM (#36932559)
My company would call that taking a mental health day, which is considered a legitimate reason for not coming into work.
Re:The Long History of Nobody Wants to Work Anymore by shove on Sunday July 30, 2023 @12:00PM (#36932599)
Mine too, but I’ve not always had the pleasure of working for the enlightened
Re:The Long History of Nobody Wants to Work Anymore by schwartzworld on Sunday July 30, 2023 @12:59PM (#36933264)
Easy to do as a knowledge worker, but I've had plenty of jobs where you get in trouble for resting.
Re:The Long History of Nobody Wants to Work Anymore by red-iron-pine on Monday July 31, 2023 @08:45AM (#36941768)
calendar store -- one of the pop-ups in the mall during the holiday season.

literally just an empty storefront they were able to rent on the cheap. few shoddy racks of calendars.

we had to keep walking and chatting to the customers when they came in. In December. For calendars. No chairs, no cell phones. Couple of the HS kids no called/no showed so I was often the only person there for 8 hours. Exhausting.

Re:The Long History of Nobody Wants to Work Anymore by doublerebel on Monday July 31, 2023 @10:54PM (#36951774)
That’s called sales
Re:The Long History of Nobody Wants to Work Anymore by red-iron-pine on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @01:41PM (#36959501)
I've had sales jobs. I worked 3 hours a day, make a lot of phonecalls, and did power lunches twice a month.

This was retail, and for calendars. I was a seasonal hire and had no more information about the product than the customer did, nor did I get any commission or incentive if I sold or didn't sell.

Re:The Long History of Nobody Wants to Work Anymore by webnrrd2k on Sunday July 30, 2023 @01:26PM (#36933609)
I had a coworker who would say that they were having eye problems -- as in "I just can see coming in today".
Re:The Long History of Nobody Wants to Work Anymore by Paul-Craft on Sunday July 30, 2023 @07:36PM (#36937157)
Once or twice, I've used "car trouble," as in "trouble is, I ain't gettin' in the car to go to work today."
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Re:The Long History of Nobody Wants to Work Anymore by cypherpunks01 on Sunday July 30, 2023 @10:40AM (#36931605)
Yes, thank you! That's the related one I could not think of : )
Re:The Long History of Nobody Wants to Work Anymore by WalterBright on Sunday July 30, 2023 @12:48PM (#36933129)
> agreeable terms may actually be needed in order to attract people to work

aka the Law of Supply & Demand.

Re:The Long History of Nobody Wants to Work Anymore by Nifty3929 on Sunday July 30, 2023 @01:08PM (#36933375)
This Utah Phillips quote sounds like it came right out of Atlas Shrugged.
Re:The Long History of Nobody Wants to Work Anymore by wak90 on Sunday July 30, 2023 @09:46PM (#36937980)
My goodness what an insulting thing to say about the man
Re:The Long History of Nobody Wants to Work Anymore by nroms on Monday July 31, 2023 @09:28AM (#36942171)
I mean, like it or not Atlas Shrugged remains one of the most influential novels of all time
Re:The Long History of Nobody Wants to Work Anymore by wak90 on Monday July 31, 2023 @01:00PM (#36945554)
I didn't say it wasn't. I'm saying calling an anarchist someone out of the "objectivist" manifesto is especially insulting.
Re:The Long History of Nobody Wants to Work Anymore by nroms on Thursday August 03, 2023 @04:52AM (#36983149)
It wouldn't be considered an insult from those many who liked the book, is my meaning. Just that the parent didn't seem to me to be especially insulting
Re:The Long History of Nobody Wants to Work Anymore by wak90 on Thursday August 03, 2023 @01:07PM (#36988627)
This is going to sound insulting and it is not meant to be insulting.

Your comment shows a fundamental misunderstanding of anarchism and Rand. Her philosophy is particularly odious to people on the left and is especially incompatible with anarchist political philosophy. The idea that there are special super intelligent humans who should be placed at the top of society's hierarchy and be given free range to make any and all decisions for those lower on the hierarchy is outright rejected as baseline anarchist political thought.

Re:The Long History of Nobody Wants to Work Anymore by nroms on Wednesday August 09, 2023 @07:35AM (#37061159)
okay yeah, i see your point. I've only read The Fountainhead, which seemed in many regards to be pro "labour" and opposed to bureaucracy and corruption. so I'm not sure yet that rand was opposed to the purported function of unions or the manifestation of them. But indeed anarchy is completely out the window