Re:If we want a shift to walking we need to prioritize dignity
by ClumsyPilot on Sunday July 30, 2023 @12:13PM
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One more time; we have really good records of car-caused injuries, because cars injure a lot of people. Your extraordinary claim, that bicycles injure even more people, but we don’t have records for some reason, needs evidence.
Re:If we want a shift to walking we need to prioritize dignity
by esoterica on Sunday July 30, 2023 @12:33PM
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Did you read the comment you replied to? I will say it again: there were 300 pedestrian injuries caused by bikes and 10,000 caused by cars in NYC in 2017. Click on the link.
Re:If we want a shift to walking we need to prioritize dignity
by pclmulqdq on Sunday July 30, 2023 @04:23PM
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I did read it. To spell it out for you: Looking at the official records (which the NYT did - I did read the thing you cited) will severely underreport bike-pedestrian collisions and the resulting injuries because almost all of them are not handled through official accident reporting channels, so they don't get counted.
Like I said again, I have yet to see a credible study counting non-fatal injuries from bikes in the city. Someone could do this, for example, by randomly sampling ER patients to see how many were involved in bicycle-pedestrian crashes, but nobody has.
Also, that NYT article is almost a pro-bike op-ed in its tone, and I would suggest finding sources that at least sound a little more neutral on your issues of choice.
What matters is the chance of getting hit at all. I still have not seen a credible study about causes of accidents involving an injured pedestrian.