How the Rich Reap Huge Tax Breaks From Private Nonprofits

Re:How the Rich Reap Huge Tax Breaks From Private Nonprofits by throwawayqqq11 on Sunday July 30, 2023 @06:18AM (#36929684)

> I’m not sure that extra money would actually mean anything

In an ideal democracy it would.

Its yet again misrepresented interests. And as an extend to my side note: The decades long shift of interest representation went from the public to the private sphere. The distrust in goverment may be justified, but its no counter argument, because the means of democratic participation is the only viable tool we have left.

FUD helps the parasites. Democracies cannot fail, only the people in it do.

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Re:How the Rich Reap Huge Tax Breaks From Private Nonprofits by willcipriano on Sunday July 30, 2023 @06:22AM (#36929706)

> because the means of democratic participation is the only viable tool we have left.

Its the only one they have left, we could always start chopping heads off.

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Re:How the Rich Reap Huge Tax Breaks From Private Nonprofits by throwawayqqq11 on Sunday July 30, 2023 @06:56AM (#36929888)

Do you know the last successful, citizen-only driven revolution? I would guess the french revolution ~1790 and it was a bloodbath. Today, the military technology has extended the power gap so much, that chopping heads off is no option for eg. north koreans without support from the outside.

I think a violent revolution would only tighten the surveilance state.

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Re:How the Rich Reap Huge Tax Breaks From Private Nonprofits by willcipriano on Sunday July 30, 2023 @09:05AM (#36930783)

The ven diagram of people who tell me that we can't possibly overthrow the government contrasted with people who say January 6th was a threat to democracy is essentially a circle.

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Re:How the Rich Reap Huge Tax Breaks From Private Nonprofits by camgunz on Sunday July 30, 2023 @09:39AM (#36931042)

We overthrow the government every two years.

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Re:How the Rich Reap Huge Tax Breaks From Private Nonprofits by realityking on Sunday July 30, 2023 @09:20AM (#36930905)

I don‘t think those two statements are at odds at all. Consider that the Jan 6th insurrections were trying to keep the then current president, the commander-in-chief of the armed forces, in power. That‘s about as far from a citizen‘s only revolution as it could be.

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Re:How the Rich Reap Huge Tax Breaks From Private Nonprofits by mistermann on Sunday July 30, 2023 @11:00AM (#36931815)

FFS, change the intent.

What is it about this topic that renders people unable to think rationally? Imagine if software was written with this quality of thinking.

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Re:How the Rich Reap Huge Tax Breaks From Private Nonprofits by PrimeMcFly on Sunday July 30, 2023 @04:52PM (#36935833)

> Imagine if software was written with this quality of thinking.

Windows 95 startup music plays

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Re:How the Rich Reap Huge Tax Breaks From Private Nonprofits by mistermann on Sunday July 30, 2023 @08:18PM (#36937493)

One difference: Windows improved.

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Re:How the Rich Reap Huge Tax Breaks From Private Nonprofits by throwawayqqq11 on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @12:01AM (#36952127)

Disagree x 2.

overthrowing the goverment via democratic means is an option too.

The circle of ppl seeing the bogaloos as idiots, preferably nowhere near any position of power is much larger.

Very distorted protortions.

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Re:How the Rich Reap Huge Tax Breaks From Private Nonprofits by prepend on Sunday July 30, 2023 @09:28AM (#36930963)

I guess it depends on what you mean by citizen-only and successful.

How about Bolshevik? Or Cuba? Or Vietnam? Or China?

If you consider the French Revolution successful (that didn’t work out so well) then I guess you can say the Sudan revolution was successful as we now have South Sudan. Or Libya was successful as Qaddafi is still dead.

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Re:How the Rich Reap Huge Tax Breaks From Private Nonprofits by pravus on Sunday July 30, 2023 @07:25AM (#36930051)

> Democracies cannot fail, only the people in it do.

I think this is false if only because the premise of Democracy is so poorly defined. What are we voting on? Why? Who is "we"?

Am I allowed to call a vote to strip you of your property? Am I allowed to call a vote to tell you what to eat? Am I allowed to call a vote to tell what to do or where to go?

Why or why not? We have laws today that do all of these things. What does "failure" mean?

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Re:How the Rich Reap Huge Tax Breaks From Private Nonprofits by mcny on Sunday July 30, 2023 @08:50AM (#36930651)

I believe I read some article how in Switzerland, a particularly insufferable woman applied for citizenship and the people voted no.

I have no ax to grind in this story, I just thought it was pertinent given your questions.

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/01/sw...

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Re:How the Rich Reap Huge Tax Breaks From Private Nonprofits by mistermann on Sunday July 30, 2023 @10:49AM (#36931700)

Is it not bizarre how the word "Democracy" throws the mind into chaos?

I wonder if this is purely organic, because you see clearly delusional claims about it everywhere online nowadays.

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